Rule Feedback Thread

[Meta]

Have any feedback for any of the new rules before they are effective? Reply on this topic. It would be helpful, but not necessary to directly cite rules to clarify what exactly you are giving feedback for.

All community feedback and staff responses to some rules are here.

Feedback, Questions, and Responses

General Feedback/Questions

@Pedro

will they like… save, so you could get a 5 point punishment, and then break a 1 point rule with would get you terminated or are these like… severity of a rule points?

It works similarly to the punishment system in the Discord server, except the points you get for each rule break depend on its severity rather than just being the same for every rule.

@Pedro

Will the points move over from the current punishments or will they start from 0 for everyone no matter how many times you were punished before, or if you are currently punished?

Current punishments will be fully reset when the new rules are in effect, unless you are already permanently suspended.

@Pedro

this rule revamp has a crackdown on freedom of speech kind of feel

As long as you aren’t insulting people (etc. calling them a retard), using excessively vulgar/derogatory language, or repeatedly making low effort posts, you will be fine.

@Pedro

there’s no clarification or even a basic example in the rules that shows what for allowed and what isn’t, it’s stupid

I will work on adding examples for some rules that may need them.

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@anon50359812

Wait, does this mean we cant troll around in #off-topic anymore, even if it doesnt break other rules?

And also, they vague on whats considered trolling, maybe they could have said a example of it, or multiple of them.

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@anon50359812

Why cant we have peaceful drama ANYWHERE, instead of ONLY having peaceful drama on #guilds?

Response by @NightDemonLight
“Peaceful drama” is just a normal conversation. By saying that you’ll just invite more drama or just go off-topic.

@Pedro

what does intentionally cause drama even mean, what is classified as drama, and to what extent is it allowed to take place? is all aruging just going to be a sin like in the discord server?

Civil arguments are allowed as long as it doesn’t become fallacious or pointless. Drama would basically be meaningless arguments here or threads to shame people, and posts that are deemed to spark such drama would be counted as intentionally causing drama. For example, if I made a post saying “I HATE [insert random person/something here]” with no real point than to cause fights or carry on a discussion that already got out of hand from a closed thread, it would count as intentional drama.

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@Pedro

So all jokes based on these topics are just straight out the window? even if they can’t be offensive unless someone is a straight up SJW? What if someone doesn’t mean anything and is just trying to brighten up the atmosphere with something very inoffensive?

As long as a joke isn’t clearly degrading a group of people, it should be okay. But overall, they should be something to avoid since jokes regarding those categories could easily be taken the wrong way.

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@anon50359812

Wait, does this mean that people like @NotObama, @obama_gaming or @Obama will not be allowed here?

Response by @NightDemonLight
It’s only about discussing about said topics.
Add-on by @Meta
Having your account be named after a political figure (as long as themselves aren’t controversial) is fine.

@anon50359812

And does that mean that WoM player statistic things will be restricted or prob even not allowed, like the one @DoubleRun made, as those wanted information on your race, nationality, gender or age?

@Pedro

So people aren’t even gonna be allowed to have random chill talks about [political/controversial] stuff in the off topic section?

Mainly because this is a Roblox forum. Not everyone on this forum (the general age group) would be capable of having a meaningful, civil discussion on these topics. Just look at the YouTube comment sections on political-esque videos. Even if it is just satire, the comment section is a complete dumpster fire.

@Pedro

are you all expecting people to immediately understand what’s allowed and what isn’t when you tell them for example that ‘‘controversial talk is against the rules’’, do you really think everyone thinks the exact same thing about controversial topics? There are people who see almost everything as controversial, and people who see nothing as controversial, there should at least be some clarifications in the rules, for every single possible amount of punishment-points given.

Namely politics and religion are the forbidden “controversial topics.” There are many things under those topics which would be considered sensitive as well. The rules are always subject to change if something comes up that needs to be addressed.

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@Pedro

also the wall of text rule is just straight up stupid, someone could put a lot of work into a post but forget to format it and it would just get poofed out of existence because funny rule break get noob you’re noob.

The post would not get deleted. A leader/moderator would reformat it or privately help the user out with formatting their posts through feedback.

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@anon50359812

So does this mean i cant make posts in #off-topic that make a joke bout Minoxiled, or something like that, anymore? (10.0)

Response by @NightDemonLight
You can still make jokes, just do not question the actions that we take.

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@anon50359812

Ya know, you can maybe just get International moderators (like spanish or brazilian mods), and add a spanish/brazilian group role, which gives them access to exclusive categories, like spanish/brazilian versions of all normal categories (#game-discussion, #off-topic, #art, etc).

It is up to Vetex to decide to do this.

Global Rule 17

@anon50359812

I dont understand this one, why cant you just show the ancient text translation to ANYONE in public?

I just, dont understand.

You will have to ask Vetex that question since it is his rule.

Global Rule 18

@Pedro

how does this rule even work, people have tagged vetex on the forum plenty of times, no one has ever been punished for it as far as I know, why is this rule even here if it doesn’t even notify him when minimized or closed at all unlike discord? it doesn’t even have a sound effect.

There would most likely be no punishment for this aside from a feedback warning, but it depends on the context and what Vetex does about it if he ends up seeing it. For example, if someone said something like @Vetex fix your game or some other comment that could be taken as non-helpful then he probably would not be very happy about it.

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[anon50359812]

well, this died quickly.

[LordOfTheBloxxed]

Just one small typo on general rule 18.

Arcane Odyssey

“or send a private PM”
Shouldn’t it just be “private message” or “PM” since it would be “private private message”?

[Meta]

Fixed. Thank you.

[NoBanana]

Not rule feedback, but this banner is huge:

could it not just be something like

We’re updating our rules on September 21st, click here to read more.

[DoubleRun]

I agree to most of the rules. Except for part where we have to ‘exhibit responsible behaviour”. Bypassing the character limit is pretty useful.

Legit I feel the mods are seeing replies as formal emails or some shit. Yeah, why don’t we just write essays to each other from now on.

[necromancer]

can i still do my spirit summons of dead accounts or does that break general rule 12 even though theyre no longer active accounts?

[LordOfTheBloxxed]

You can just click the ‘x’ icon and it disappears even when you reload the page, though it is quite large.

[anon50359812]

double nvm, this didnt die.

[NoBanana]

Also to clarify, am I right in saying “other controversial topics” from:

7. Do not discuss political, religious or any other controversial topics.

Doesn’t include controversial topics within the scope of WoM, like auto-fishing or whatever trainwreck vetex comes up with next.

[Meta]

I tried to make it show part of the post or a summary, but I don’t think it is possible without making an entirely new post. I’ll try though.

Also I’ll get you back on that stick bug… someday.

@NoBanana

Doesn’t include controversial topics within the scope of WoM, like auto-fishing or whatever trainwreck vetex comes up with next.

Yes, it does not include so. I’ll clarify that in rules.

EDIT: I was successful in shortening the banner.

[NoBanana]

Now that I think about it, the “no sharing auto-fishers” rule isn’t in the new list either - just one about suspicious links.
Is it allowed to share auto-fishers if you’re not sharing any files? Could totally fit the source for a simple fisher in a forum post - it’s like 15 lines in most languages or macro programs.

[Meta]

I forgot about that rule. I will add it. Sharing fishing macros or programs is not allowed, nor is promoting them.

EDIT: Added the rule.

[quest5]

I agree with DoubleRun here.

The 20 characters limit has been a large problem before being able to bypass it was known. People have simply added “20 characters” which was annoying and did not relate to the main topic.

Of course, it can be argued now that “Exhibit responsible behavior” is now a measure against this. However, I feel that most new members will overlook this and the forums will not be as fun–not a convincing word to persuade you, I know.

@DoubleRun

Legit I feel the mods are seeing replies as formal emails or some shit. Yeah, why don’t we just write essays to each other from now on.

I do feel with the new rules and this specifically, that this is an English class and we are all in a circle trying to have “smart” conversations. “I agree with…” “I disagree for the following reasons…”

I believe there should be some lenience with this paragraph. For example, the #art and #off-topic channels shouldn’t be so strict.

Are meme responses inappropriate? Will “pog” be discouraged? Are we expected to give detailed, constructive criticism for art?

[UnitVector]

What about #trusted-lads, in it’s description it says that anything goes but we should follow the rules. Does this mean we can ditch the strict formatting rules there and make it a chill zone unless the topic maker wants us to have an actual discussion?
Basically do we get some leaniance with the rules there?

[Meta]

The rules are a little more relaxed in #trusted-lads, yes.

[rrvnsjrhjken]

@quest5

The 20 characters limit has been a large problem before being able to bypass it was known. People have simply added “20 characters” which was annoying and did not relate to the main topic.

if they dont want us saying 20 characters to bypass it then just remove the limit

[Meta]

@quest5 @rrvnsjrhjken The 20 character requirement was changed to 10 about a month ago.

[rrvnsjrhjken]

why not just remove it entirely insted of just lowering it