Nah, this would be closer to if Sunken Sword/Staff didn’t have Rising Tide / Furry of the Sea.
50% of the reason people going after the tool just… doesn’t exist.
nah man i forgot that FOTS exists
Yeah
I originally though It was going to be cheaper on spirit than magic in terms of summoning so my paladin pre FR was mainly spirit focused to try and get the summon as soon as i could, but nope
Night staf beam have 1/2 of iron leg shot, so this range so low for use
jesus christ
Anyways, Oracle is a cool class, but it really needs a lot of love— it feels like it’s still in Early access. It’s got a decent bit of good and bad, but it’ll really start feeling the bad if it isn’t constantly addressed these next few updates:
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It looks cool (I still wish we could change the colors freely, but it has a vibe). Its got some of the cleanest VFX, especially the Gold and Red versions… but the Blue ones are pretty too. Still wish we got a Green variant.
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It has a decent spread of stats, namely size and power right now. As it’s a weapon build, you could easily pivot into Speed with Ardent scrolls.
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I like most of the unique rites: Astrapikis is cooler than Magic’s Slash; Aithoro is cooler than Magic’s Annihilation; Nichtaplia is a cool supportive effect, and i hope Spirit continues to get more moves like that.
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Feels just smooth to play as Weapons, but does it diferently. Probably just a Tool class thing, but i really like swapping between relics to get the most out of each task I assign to them. It’s combat style seems to lean more (but given how its AO, it’ll balance out in the end) towards AOE Crowd Control, and Supportive effects; and using that in a highly 3d combat game feels really nice.
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It’s also an interesting class to fight against, something thats really nice to see, considering mage existed (i haven’t fought a mage now, it’s probably as bad as it was before). Despite being the #1 case of “I shoot anywhere and Hit”, it somehow feel mostly fair in PVP… i don’t fight it much in PvE— mostly due to NPC’s not getting Relics, but against, players it feels pretty fine. I will admit Spirit does a shitload of damage with no investment, likely to compensate its gimick of few Synergies… but god damn was it tuned hard, it’s like Shadow magic, but imagine if Shadow had one synergy that just boosted its damage and had no drawbacks and was always applied; and if you wanted more damage for a few drawbacks you could get it more than easily.
but…
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It’s horrid to grind for: seriously, ~50 Delamere kills, no Relic; Dusk has to be grinded before level 100 just to make the drop-rate easier; Crone took me about 20 drops to get another Relic. And then you’ve also got to do this for Athena Pages.
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It got the lowest variety of tools, despite being a class that’s expected to use 3 of said tools at a time. One of these tools you immediately get at the start of the game, the others make you realize an Acrimony might be easier to grind for.
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Said low tool variety is only exasperated by the fact that it’s got like 10 Basic moves, and if you can’t use the Unique moves (LIKE THEM BEING UNOBTAINABLE FOR SOME DIVINE REASON), you really feel the lack of variety.
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The lack of God imbues really makes the awakening effect feel pretty weak right now; The effects from Poseidon and Athena are strong, don’t get me wrong… but again, its more of a variety thing. Every variety issue Spirit / Oracle has, is worse than beta launch Weapons. Honestly, using a Hecate Essence as a Spirit build should unlock an additional God Soul, would’ve been nice to get 3, so you could potentially have one on each Relic as of FR.
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The lack of Relics makes the archetype each Relic has feel bloated— notably, we have 2 size relics, and one speed relic; makes the class feel much slower than it actually is. Especially because most people run dense, since of the 10 basic moves we get, it works really well for them.
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I feel like there should be a few non miniboss relics that you can find similar to the rusty zweihander or ruined sifenya
then you have an option aside from hunting down minibosses (maybe they can also add a few more longer ranged options as well)
My issue with Crone is not that she’s hard to get the relic from, but that she is nowhere to be seen. I literally cannot find her anywhere, even if she is said to be on an island. All the times I fought her were when I was doing something different. Got the staff on my second fight. And, it has an unusable rite Floganymai or something, just like the crystal orb
i think boss spawns get really buggy on older servers. I agree with crones drop rates though… I got my first Ember staff pretty quickly, and it somehow doesn’t feel as hard to get drops from her (+ i think Luck 3 makes her a guarantee drop)… Crone could potentially serve a problem due to her item volume, but again, better than Delamere.
Delamere didn’t take long for me too, only second or third try, but thats some insane luck on my part
enough incentivation for me to progress my oracle file
lol losers i have every relic on my 1 hour file because i used the paramount bank npcs!!
I have done the same thing (Just i had to do it all 3 times cause i have 3 diff files that use spirit)
Well since
1, it’s hp (and thus regen) got gutted
2, it still keeps its drawback with imbues
3, 2 moves are gatekept by a 380 level cap which with current lvl 175 is literally impossible
4, the hybrid classes have innate lifesteal but it doesn’t
I kinda think it’s trash
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For me it was the Crone. Took 20 hunts before she dropped an ember staff, but for some reason Delamere LOVES giving me the orb. Got 3 in a row once.
oracle has build in lifesteal, what are you talking about?
Wait what
But I heard someone say that it didnt
wait I just tested it again and now it’s not giving me any lifesteal
I’m 99% sure it had built in lifesteal a few days ago
Ah there’s the problem
nvm I’m stupid I used oracle armour while using it before 
Swiching from it to warrior made me feel so free, and I think that sums the class up fairly well
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