Stat maxing will be the end of pvp + agility is still controversial (not a suggestion)

i was just saying it in response :person_shrugging:

I believe agility should stay but have some sort of drawback to it. However I don’t wanna make agility suck for lower level, new players at the same time

but you didn’t have to respond in such a way that it would just turn the debate into an argument


am i tripping bro, did i actually just read that

yeah the drawback for it should be making you take triple damage from all sources

uh huh so the original message directed towards me isn’t problematic at all

It doesn’t matter if it’s problematic or if it makes you angry, you still have a choice to either respond to the bait or to just leave it alone

you can only argue with two people
with that being said I’m gonna take my own advice

okaay?

idk why ur trying to argue with me i’m literally agreeing with you

and?

literally proving you wrong and negative regeneration does buttfuck nothing so dont even call it drawback

this build’s also crappy, u can do something way better

Your point does still stand, but what these guys are saying is that the drawback of ā€œlittle defenseā€ is enough for what agility gives in return. Also, I think the build Cheems posted had 700~(?) defense, so that doesn’t really apply.

Despite this, if one were to truly have prioritized agility over defense, the drawback of ā€œsquishinessā€ would be outdone by the positive of ā€œbeing able to pick and choose each fightā€. You shouldn’t be able to start and leave fights as you choose, especially now that we’re having a PVP toggle.

Nah I usually fight elius with an agility build if I took 3x damage it would suck please rethink that

a better idea though is an agility rework which makes agility a stamina regen boost, and maybe a small chance to completely dodge an attack

the build sucks aside from the high agility idk what ur trying to prove

bro i’m talking about high invest stats in general
for example investing a lot in atk size at the cost of very little power is bad since u can just aim instead of size crutching

the issue of high agility is a whole other topic

You should watch Gooshlargs videos. Having high agility in a build with bare minimum power, defense, and attack speed or size is enough to make up for any other deficiencies.

248 speed, 85 power, 777 defense, 176 agility NO DRAWBACK (stat)
ā€œthis build sucksā€ :skull: :pray:

just optimize your stats (transferring the attack size and intensity into power)

though it’s difficult and I’ve only done it a few times

And if you gave me this build, I’d tweak it to be high power lower defense since I’m good with low defense.

honestly assassin is my favorite playstyle in any game, dashing around your opponent while taking as little hits as possible