The Knowns

Ah, I see

Its canocity is extremely dubious, yeah. It might’ve been decanonized by now

No???

This changes nothing, the screenshot clearly shows Tech is talking about Poseidon Magic in a GAMEPLAY perspective, it’s not canon lol

Also why would Poseidon need to make a magic, he literally has his innate power as a god lol

He needs to make it so that testers can move around, duh!

i really dont know where your coming up with this from
the lore doc is very clear when it says god use magic and if poseidon uses a magic its very likely to be the magic he created

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Whilst yeah, Gods can use magic, 90% of all the powers we see Gods use are just not “magic” in the sense humans could use it, “magic” for them is naturally part of their authority/ innate power

this is an assumtion with no backing literally just made it up,

just because prometheus gained the ability to steal another god’s doesn’t mean they dont exert their authority as a magic?? we know these magics exist, we know that all elemental curses have a magical counterpart, and we know the grand fire curses exist as specifically stated the most powerful elemental curses

Literally backed up by every appearance of a God. Every God has been only ever seen with “Magic” that ties to their authorities.

On top of this, Gods do not improve* on their magic unlike humanity. This clearly implies that Gods do not have minds, which again makes what they use, NOT “magic” in the sense that humans in the AU use/interact with it.

Where did I say this? I said that what the Gods use is not “Magic” in the way humans have magic.

What is this trying to prove? The only magics shared between Gods are the basic manipulation of Lightning and Water, which even then are VASTLY different when we see the Gods use them

And then the Grand Fire Curses/Magics were both created in the visage of Prometheus so???

me with the peepee curse (it was secretly created by Prometheus arbitrarily and Cursebeard does not know of its existence)

this literally proves my original point? gods just use magics that reflect their authority. a reminder my original claim was " the GF magics were the magics that prometheus used"

you basically said that gods dont use magic and only use their “authority” 90% of the time (idk where you got this from), just read the message.

That the Grand fire magics and by extension other godly magics, are in fact magics and not solely the authority of a god. I came to the conclusion by stating curses were the physical manifestations of magic not godly authority. do you undertstand?

How many times do I need to repeat this, you literally cannot read :man_facepalming:

Those are not “magic”… they’re literally just extensions of a God’s authority that might use magic energy.

If you want a larger explanation, just scroll up :skull:

Yes… God’s “Authorities” are just the broad term for what they can specialise in, which has never been confirmed to be magic and the lore doc implies its something only the gods have

??? Brother you must genuinely be suffering from some sort of brain rot. Let me repeat this for your dumbass one last time…

“MAGIC” is DIFFERENT depending on whether or not it is a GOD using it, or it is a HUMAN using it. The Grand Fire Magics are DIFFERENT when Prometheus uses them, because they are quite literally TIED TO HIS BEING.

When HUMANS use Grand Fire Magics, it is a FOREIGN IMPLEMENTATION brought upon by the usage of HECTATE SHARDS on a humans MIND(s). (or an ancestor’s usage of said shards)

Gods have NEVER been stated to use “Minds” and thus cannot by the definition of Magic for humans use “Magic”. You COULD say they use Magic Energy, which is non controversial since it is the application of Chaos/ the raw state Magic is based on, but you cannot reasonably use MAGIC.

smooth brain plebbites please reach morockean enlightenment before you can ever dream of conversing with the beacon of knowledge and piety that is skittlesnakes on the Arcane Odyssey Forums

ye skittlessnake is right, the greek gods dont use magic they just have domain over different elements that they can willfully control


also vetex saying spirit weapons (which were blessed with powers based on the gods) arent related to magic at all

With the way the Lore Doc is worded, it seems like the gods are magic beings, like Dragons or Sirens, so they COULD use magic, but that’s not what their elemental powers count as.

Do you just mean they don’t use magic the way humans do, or they just can’t use magic energy at all cause,

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They still use magic energy, though maybe not in the way humans do, spirit weapons are just only infused with a god’s spirit energy

presumably they dont, i assume its more similar to curses where they can control the elements of their domain themselves using magic energy

Yeah that’s what I was thinking too

theres no point in arguing this anymore, i don’t think it’s explained coherently in the lore doc and a lot of evidence is discord messages from 4 years ago. you also clearly don’t want to, so I’ll admit your right for the sake of the post.

also please don’t start flaming someone while spouting what is basically a fucking theory.

complete and utter theory, no basis whatsoever, we don’t have any idea how hecate shards effect magic or anything of the sort.

neither do humans? minds arent even canon anymore they were retconned a while ago.

me when i insult someone for not believing my theories, please remain civil

this is pretty good evidence but it lacks veritablity because it was 4 years ago, I don’t know what the question is, & tech said it not vetex (doesn’t even call it an authority)

this is just saying that the spirit weapons arent based on magic, so there might not be a shadow spirit weapon.

i was thinking this is a good way to say it

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good boy

im giving you evidence but your head is so far up your own ass you’ve lost the ability to read, which is concerning seeing as you’re on a forum site

basis is literally everything that’s been told to you + with that other people have given evidence for, you genuine smooth brained squirrel

nah this guy is baiting for sure now :skull::skull:

“we don’t have any idea how hectate shards effect magic”
volcanic, the illiterate, 2024

Now this is a 64arc level crashout

Love to see it

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Volcanic does act a bit braindead whenever I see him, though.