This wotan dude

the PK could be considered higher than Theos, 4 and 5 are interchangeable depending on the point of the story / your perspective

My argument for why Theos gets the edge is Theos was able to cash against Curse Users when he was well “elderly” and his prime was considered “strong as cursebeard”. Even though the statement of him being near Cursebeard’s level is obviously just an in universe statement saying people considered Theos strong, but during this time there were still ALOT of people who were alive to see the Golden Age of Magic and the Gods, due to magic giving extended lifespans, so I assume Theos was considered a once per 100 generational talent.

And also the PK doesn’t have any confirmed Curses except for the Absorption so erm… But yeah, you can say the PK is 4, depends on if we’re looking at this from a WoM perspective or not

Agreed, Theos is exceptionally powerful, probably the most naturally gifted non-curse user in the series besides the Peacekeeper themselves due to taking a 500 year bath in magic water. However I’d also place PK above Cursebeard simply because Acheron , through Zeus, killed him and then the PK proceeded to solo them both. Also, the absorption curse is mentioned to be able to destroy cursed through a technique learned from Hades, but we don’t know whether or not this works in a battle, but I thought it would be worth mentioning.

Btw, Durza was nerfed (not added in lore doc yet)

They got weakened after using all their energy into the magic blast that wrecked the Earth.

Didnt durza only beat cursebeard because he got sad and gave up

wanted to mention this but didnt want to have someone tell me to back out my source, neat that it can be verified

the issue is is that it doesn’t fucking matter if “oh he has zero feats he can’t be that strong!” because he just IS. It doesn’t matter if you don’t think the wood curse can be very strong (spoiler alert, it’s probably one of the strongest of the base magic curses if not stronger than multiple lost magic curses) because the sole source of correct information, the devs, have said that Wotan is possibly the strongest in the war seas. It doesn’t matter if you disagree. Wotan just IS strong, and that’s that.

He did get sad and give up, but I doubt thats the sole reason he was defeated. The lore doc puts it like this: “From the sheer power of the undead god, the nature of the attack, and Arthur’s broken spirit after defeating the crew he had built up over hundreds of years, he was defeated”. I took it as being a combination of these things, but I guess it’s up to interpretation.

I think to beat wotan we’re gonna have to find and recruit the metal curse user which vetex said even wotan feared

Wouldn’t that be the Prince of Thorns if anybody? Since John Thorne had the steel curse

I’ve only seen talk about the metal curse user

prince of thorns prob has metal curse inheritance
if it is steel variation, then he has haki
we might recruit john thorne to help us beat wotan

Well I was thinking more like he IS John Thorne.

crown prince of thorns is probably the son, next in line for the throne
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he cant be john thorne because john thorne is already john thorne

he cant be PRINCE without somebody already being king, but john thorne is the only known thorne

The name John Thorne makes me laugh every time I hear it. It’s not even a bad name. Its just he fact that not only is his first name John, but his last name is literally the name of his empire reminds me of all the John Halo, John Warhammer, John Your-mom memes.

ah yes because if i was named “john paul” calling my house the “paul household” would be ridiculous

john arcane…

John Golf, inventor of golf

Isn’t that extremely common though
Lots of empires are named after their founders

roman empire named after romulus