Thoughts on roblox changing user IDs

The “Privacy” they are referring to is likely observing what a player did in a certain game, this makes it difficult due to the fact they have a randomized User.Id per game, hence the word “scoped”

Except that’s a stupid reason! All existing players retain their UserId, only new players need to be built around using User.Id, all this shit does is make development complicated and randomize things that doesn’t need to be.

My question is what exactly the intention behind this even was.
What was this supposed to accomplish?

Gotta distract people from the thousands of pedos still on the site somehow

it’s ultimately quite likely that scoped user ids will occupy a different number space (‘normal’ global ids right now take up the e9 range, any new badge/asset ids are in the e15 range) so it probably won’t impact development. there’s also the fact that only new users who play after the update are going to get scoped ids, so it won’t matter that much

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your id isnt randomized if you already joined a game prior

anyway, i think it’s pretty dumb but overall harmless. theres probably a reason, but even if it ends up as a useless change, then… like whatever, not worth pointing out.

I will say that this may cause issues for people who haven’t joined a game prior to this update since it’ll make it harder for devs to ban players or give them admin privileges in game.

So it might make it harder to retain players due to devs not being equipped to help people get their progress back if it is lost.

Doesn’t this only apply to new accounts

larp spotted

Ok and

Unless you’re a roblox developer, I don’t understand why you think you have the credibility to discuss what makes doing any of these things difficult.

Insinuating I’m somehow a nefarious individual because I think mindlessling shitting on roblox is a bad thing is a new low.

ok this makes more sense now
i do wish they wouldve made that clear in the announcement post but whatever

It does, and new accounts are constantly being created, ever so slowly making this a bigger problem to which developers have to change their systems.

Oh, so it’s scummy business practices inside of the scummy business’s scummy platform!

Thanks for providing this info, though.

it was intended to be a joke comparing you to a roblox shill since you are trying to say that the backlash on this is just because its “the popular thing to do” without actually thinking about the consequences that it will bring

if you had done any critical thinking, you would see how this becomes an issue with alternate accounts allowing bad actors to evade bans more easily since they can no longer be put on a list like Tase or Easi to be automatically banned on thousands of games, now each game is going to have to manually ban them (which will be probably be hard since we dont know if the scoped ID will be loaded upon joining or if its going to generate trillions of ids for every new account on every new game, probably the first one though)

roblox is playing this off as a way to “protect privacy” but really its just to get rid of these systems that are doing their job better than them because it reflects poorly on their own moderation.

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can someone explained biweekly dogshit pedo dave decision to me :3

this goes into detail (scoobert also put it iirc):

No way four geniuses liked this :rofl:

  1. No shit it was a joke; it was in poor taste. How you didn’t get that, I cannot understand.
  1. If we actually read what I said (crazy, I know), you would understand that my point wasn’t even about how effective the change was. It was about the obvious hivemind of roblox players, you included, who partake in unproductive discussions about how stupid roblox is every time they change literally anything, despite them having no idea how to actually run a trust and safety team for a userbase this massive.

Like I already said, this doesn’t affect you if you’re not a developer; move on.

Roblox has groups of people on payroll to come up with ways to improve the platform’s safety. It takes a considerable amount of hubris to believe your opinions on what roblox should be doing are the optimal solutions. It’s genuinely appalling.

only WE are allowed to farm data off our customers!

regardless of what you thought about it, the point still stands, you should not be defending this change especially when your “reasoning” is objectively incorrect.

yeah i realize that? i told you that your point was factually incorrect and gave you the reason for why its factually incorrect, and this point youre making is also incorrect as well.

this isn’t about running a trust and safety team, its about them lying about the reason they’re changing it to mask the real reason that becomes painfully apparent to those who know roblox’s track records. because, again, this feature is less to protect the privacy of users and moreso to kill off the systems that are moderating roblox better than roblox

discussions don’t have to be productive, people can hate on it for it being a bad feature, we aren’t saying we can make a better feature (though, there doesnt even need to be one, this change quite literally doesn’t benefit anybody except the bad actors whose privacy roblox is trying to protect), also when it comes to discussions regarding topics like these there isnt a single productive one because no matter what solutions people come up with, roblox is NEVER going to listen to them. the only thing that roblox hears are lawsuits.

also, this goes way past being a developer, this affects the minors on the platform who now have a higher risk of being targetted by predators, and it goes without saying that this also affects the minor’s parents.

does this affect me personally? not at all. that doesn’t mean i can’t talk about how stupid of a feature it is, you trying to discourage discussion of it is even more unproductive than the discussion itself, and also downright deplorable

strawman technique? lovely.

i dont know what fictitious argument you’re fighting against, but i never gave any solution to what roblox should be doing, all i said is what they are doing is going to bring more harm than good (and roblox knows this), im critiquing it, not offering a better solution.

clearly you are deluded into protecting the giga mega corporation so ive got nothing to gain from trying to convince you otherwise

and as a final sidenote for the future: get off your high horse, employ critical thinking, and dont blatantly use logical fallacies

this argument is over

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Roblox sees chomos as an opportunity so they’re going to do whatever they can to protect them since Roblox Corporation has long since lost it’s moral compass even before they went public

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