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Well my naming ideas were my “other names” for darkness. As I said before, I just feel that its naming scheme is bland and lackluster compared to the potential upgrades of light such as flare, aether, and healing magic (?). Aether’s description is “explosive and bright light”, which honestly is sorta vague, but at least I can see it as a true upgrade of light, as the current light magic has a very low destruction factor, so Aether fills this weakness. Plus, Aether is a better name for light’s upgrade than the name “brightness”, which is basically what “darkness” is to shadow magic.
Darkness’ description is “a dark purple/red or purple/black energy.” To me, it seems like a recolored version of shadow magic. The only thing that may infer something that makes darkness different than shadow is the word “energy” and that can mean so many things that its hard to comprehend what that would even look like.
For the naming ideas I said before, I feel that void, corruption, and decay magic would be equivalent to aether, flare, and healing magic. Though ngl void does sound a bit overpowered if it means spawning in a black hole. Unfortunately the mutation chart doesn’t really help with coming up with names since they are either in the game, planned to be in the game, or are literal combos of base elements
Can’t really blame him from what I’ve seen in the suggestions page lol.
TL;DR: I don’t like the name darkness magic and it should be something else cause its bland compared to Aether and can’t see a difference between darkness and shadow, though its just my opinion.
The same can be said for aether’s description as well, “Explosive and bright light.” While it is more descriptive of it’s properties, its still just shorter and just seems like only a better light magic at first glance.
Again, you’re putting more of a fire upgrade to a light upgrade. While flare is shown mostly as a “fire and light mutation” in many things, its not exactly said like that by vetex himself, unless i haven’t seen such of him saying it.
As of the idea names, while i do agree void would be a better sounding name, it doesn’t seem to equate to what the progression seems like. Many people see it as darkness going to death magic as of upgrades, so it would be weirder going from a complete emptiness of space to a force solely for killing and nothing else. As for the other two names, they don’t seem to work as other names (for me at least).
Mainly going off of the mutation chart for flare, but yea I suppose it could have changed to a mutation of light and/or fire. Probably would never know since Vetex never said anything about anything for lost magics besides being obtainable from scrolls, which infers that it doesn’t really matter what magic you have as long as you have the scroll to obtain the lost magic (and obvious requirements like levels).
Yes, I agree that void would be an awkward upgrade to death magic, though that’s why I stated the possibility of decay magic. In my head at least, decay magic would work on anything including structures but apply high DoT compared to death magic which… well yea, death. I don’t really know how death magic would work so I can’t really say much for it.
Plus, the same is already applied for light to healing to life magic. Only thing is idk if healing is connected to light or completely separate. I assume it is cause life is a mutation of light in the chart, but again its outdated and lost/ancient magic scrolls exist now.
ignore the first part of flare cause I’m blind. Point still stands that although flare is a mutation of fire, it is also a mutation of light so it works both ways. But I was incorrect about sun though so thats mb.
Before I decided to go warlord, I was gonna go shadow darkness and death/sacrifice. I’m thinking it’s supposed to be some counter to Aether, but if you wanted it to be true to being the opposite, it’d most likely be called “Nether” (i think, don’t take this 100% guaranteed). I got this conclusion based on how Nether is defined as “lower in position”. While on the other hand, Aether is more seen as being the complete opposite. Aether, in the way we’re using it, can be defined as “the clear sky; the upper regions of air beyond the clouds”. If we’re going to take both of these definitions to their original, literal meanings, we can say that Aether is like heaven and Nether is like hell (or a lower plain of existence). Both of them are in opposite positions of the “”“terrestrial plain of the universe”"" (or something) that we live on. So, if we wanted to make Aether and darkness magic true opposites, we’d call darkness:“Nether”. On the other hand, darkness IS somewhat different from shadow (definition wise). Shadows can be seen as a “dark area or shape produced by a body coming between rays of light and a surface”, which means that in order for shadows to be formed, there has to be some light present (along with the fact that you would also have to be blocking the path of light to create the shadow). Darkness, on the other hand, can be seen as “the partial or total absence of light”. If we were to take this term and look at it on the surface, we can assume this is just a shadow but edgier, which honestly, you’re not wrong. BUT if we were able to look a little deeper into the meaning (form wise), darkness can also be the TOTAL absence of light in general (where there is no light present whatsoever). I found a perfect explanation online for this, which is: “darkness is (uncountable) the state of being dark; lack of light, while shadow is a dark image projected onto a surface where light is blocked by the shade of an object”. We can say that, yes, despite seeming like 2 different things, they are technically the same. On the other hand, we can also say that despite being the same thing, they are also 2 different things. So, darkness CAN be seen as a “stronger version of shadow”. I’m going to get into some dumb ass explanation magic stuff which is most likely 100% false, but this seems logical in the whole explanation of the terms. Darkness CAN be seen as a stronger shadow, since its 'the total void/absence of light. Due to this, it would be the PURE form of “dark”, since its counterpart (light) isn’t present. Shadow, on the other hand, NEEDS its counterpart (light) to be present in order to form, possibly weakening its power, and turning it into an impure/deficient form of itself.
SO.
TL;DR
In the end, if you want darkness to be OPPOSITE of Aether, it’d be best to call it “Nether”.
If you want to know why darkness is STRONGER, a possible explanation is that: in order for shadow to even form, you’d need its counterpart (light), which would weaken it. On the other hand, darkness is pure “dark”, and since light isn’t needed to form it, it can be used in its raw, pure form.
Please read everything i said tho, I think it’s a cool/creative explanation
Stfu, you got it from Minecraft, we don’t need a dissertation to tell
Tl;dr
They sound the same
You sure as hell know vetex doesn’t take 5 years to come up with the name “Darkness” from “Shadow”, they’re similar enough and darkness sounds cooler than shadow therefore he made it an upgrade of shadow
No.
settle down level, its just an explanation. Also:
the fact you think i got it from minecraft makes me disgusted. Not to mention, I didn’t even mention anything about vetex confirming this or any of this being true. You even see i said
which means i dont care if its true or not, because i 100% believe its not true, but it sounds cool. Yeah, believe it or not, thats the only reason why I wanted to say it. It sounds cool.
You’re disgusted by someone joking about Minecraft? Tough
Also LOL you got your “facts” of it being the opposite from fucking Superpower wiki and ignored the fact that there’s no direct antonyms for Aether
Funny af
Nice cropping shitass
Man you’re really making a big deal/trying to create big drama out of a forum reply. It’s not that big of a deal bro, it’s not like we’re having a political debate lol. Besides, nobody could care less about what i reply to on the forums honestly, not like what i say is something you should take to heart…
unless… you want my heart? 
(but also yeah, that nether thing was kinda foolish of me lol, not a big deal tho)
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Skill issue, cope harder kid, mald, you stay losing I stay winning, you stay losing, I got 99999 kd in rogue 
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Preferably every other marketable organ included
ok.
Yea in one of my posts I suggested Nether since it can be considered as the opposite of Aether, which is basically heaven. Only thing is if its supposed to be a hellish magic, it seems more of a fire type of magic rather than shadow magic, which takes away the only shadow type lost magic if we were to replace Darkness with Nether.
Agreed. But that is the problem; “darkness” is a collection of hues of shadow. It can be lighter than the current shadow magic or complete void of any light and complete darkness. If its lighter than Shadow Magic, it’s no longer an upgrade of Shadow Magic, it becomes its own separate thing. There is Equinox, but that requires a perfect balance of shadow and light, not a shadow that’s just lighter as a regular shadow. Other lost magics don’t have multiple meanings to their name; they are clear upgrades or separate from the base magics.
Anyways, I guess I just wanted a different name than darkness cause it just sounds so plain to me lol. Its like calling Aether Magic, “Brightness” Magic. As I’ve stated in previous posts, possible names could include Void, Corruption, and Decay magic. Void being a direct upgrade of Shadow being void of light, Corruption doing its own thing (probably something with insanity or reputation), and Decay being an indirect upgrade of Shadow to lead to Death Magic.
But each to their opinion I suppose
this argument over vetex’s choice of lost magic names getting so heated is funny enough but i feel like wanting to laugh my ass of for zero reasoning other than because im fucking listening to “attack on the killer queen” on loop
Oh no, people are already posting lengthy comments trying to explain this.
Guys, it’s called Darkness magic because that’s just how it is. Are we forgetting this is haha funny lego game? The most reasonable assumption here is that Vetex just needed a name for an upgrade for Shadow and called it Darkness. It’s really not that deep.
Yes because apparently all if not most plain magics need a lost magic variant.
And even if that weren’t true, Shadow is definitely getting one.
TL:DR, Darkness needs fancier name.
I personally do not care, it seems fine to me. It’s unambiguous and straight to the point.
I’m guessing the finer details haven’t been added. Game not out yet.
In any case, Shadow is literally just a dark blob. Acid is just green water. Plasma is just weird light.
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He doesn’t really need to add finer details for most magics, probably the best reasoning behind it being that lost magics are very far into the future. The list may be changed by the time we get there, so some might not need that much lengthy descriptions or fine details at the moment.
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Makes sense. I agree as well and I see what you mean. Really wanted to only make the reply because im bored and i fucking LOVE shadow magic.
You’re right, it isn’t deep, and thats literally why we’re on the forums lol. None of this is meant to be taken 100% seriously unless its in the suggestions column (dead).
yea idk what happened to above lol
Each to their own opinion I suppose.
Yea he’s got plenty of time, at least till he finishes the revamp. I’m not sure if lost magics are supposed to be endgame or if you can just get them once you get second mind.
