Ash winnin because pog
but neither were ever meta not even close to being meta well maybe Poison fishing update cause the DoT was pretty absurd back then but it still wasnât meta
Poison was def considered Meta for fishing update because of how power worked, not being affected by magic multiplier means with only 60 power at that level cap, Poison would be dealing only 6% less than Fire when accounting for its old stats, as opposed to what would be closer to 12% with the way power works right now.
Also statuses went through perfect blocking so it would always inflict poisoned as well, and in addition to its clouds and average speed it was definitely a threat.
It probably wasnât the best though considering Fire and Plasma had broken bleed synergies and a stronger DoT (though lasting shorter), but I definitely would have called it meta based on stats and community reactions to it and the constant calls for a nerf.
But yeah right now itâs definitely trash.
Ash. Poison is kinda cringe
they likely said this due to their similarities as a magic
but yes, ash is not a gas
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- Stats
Ash seems to be better on its own judging off of in practice experience and just from listening to other people. Though Poison has a DoT, Ashâs small difference in base damage means that as long as Ash users can get consistent hits, as in around 8 hits within a 20 second period (when taking into account Poisonâs +5% AO synergy), an Ash user can maintain relatively close damage to a Poison user.
Ash is bigger meaning itâs easier to get cloud damage and just easier to hit as a whole.
However, it is worth saying most people havenât gotten to experience how much of a difference Poisonâs self synergy in AO makes so this may change, but I still feel like Ash feels much better to use.
- Synergies
If you want variety, go Ash. Ash has petrification synergies and along with those petrification synergies come much more than anything Poison offers.
If you want quality, you can make a case for either but Poison is looking threatening. Poison/Fire offers an insane, constant, and almost unbeatable buff to Fire, but slightly nerfs Poison, but the point of this combo is that Fire is the damage dealer. Poison/Plasma offers a lesser damage output but doesnât negatively affect Poison, and due to Plasmaâs speed, is more consistent. Both combos mean you can ignite clouds which prevents magics being able to shrink the clouds and counters other people trying to steal your clouds.
Ash does offer its own benefits, however, just not as consistent and more easily countered. Petrification allows for more deadly follow-ups assuming you can act faster than your opponent, and since Ash creates clouds that means petrifying opponents guarantees some cloud damage.
- Statuses
Basically everything here was already covered except clearing statuses ig, in which case Ash is more useful.
- Aesthetic
Ash allows for more heat-based/volcanic aesthetics, whereas Poison doesnât really allow for any aesthetics that Ash doesnât also offer aside from colour-based. In terms of stand-alone, Ash is probably better but both are similar. I wouldnât say one is necessarily edgier than the other.
damn
19k and 9k
bruh guild hub aint even active anymore. why this dude complaining for
That was before you asked how many messages 
Nah, the button wouldnât release so i just stood there charging bc i couldnât get out
wth 67 replies in 12 min
man fails and now has to edit the whole thing thinking he did a smart move god damn, if only he could get this smart irl
I think it was because lag because that happens a lot when I play my ash file
fuck you Meta i got it >:D
Damn it, could have closed this. Anyways closed to prevent further drama from escalating.
