he does his job, I just really dont care about random pvp number changes
I pay for the skyhall and cool new content 
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its more like 3 hours, also like its 5 dollars a month, thats like less than 30 minutes of work + its my own personal choice 
This is what I mean when I say the balance team is full of SPINELESS PUSSIES, they can’t talk to Vetex man to man. And if Vetex doesn’t talk to u guys then quit fucking working with him. Balance Team is nothing but a bunch of incompetent losers not even capable of having direct conversations
You could probably get better games on Patreon for 5 dollars a month but ok
I actually cant tell if thats bait or not lmao
I like this one though 
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player has problem
vetex tells them to go to the balance team
the balance team balances
vetex says no for a bad reason
player has problem
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It’s facts I’ve been calling out balance team for being PUSSIES forever
If the disconnect between Vetex and the community is a result of mental health I think he should probably prioritize that immediately because it would be the best for him and everyone else
does he know
just reading this i just realize all the grammar mistakes, my brain just reads what it expects to be and not what i wrote and idk how to change that
Not the hero we deserve, but not the hero we needed either. Or the one we asked for.
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I don’t think he’s even a hero
Wdym
Yeah I think there was a mix up here it was the vetcord that ordered the bteam hater hero
Bro please can someone send me the text in the doc i cant open it 
Summary
Why Arcane Odyssey is dying.
I want to preface everything I’m about to say with the fact that I’m writing this from a place of concern for the game’s well-being. I have been a part of this game’s community since World of Magic. I’ve been a PvE Player, a PvP Player, and a Balance Team member. I want to see this game continue to thrive and become the ideal game that all members of this community want it to be. I’ve sunk at least two thousand hours into the game across all files, current and deleted so please know that this does not come from malice just the intent of criticism. That being said however some of these problems just can’t be overlooked.
The issues that I have seen arise from the game’s developer, Vetex, as of lately can all be derived from one word, Disrespect. Between the mishandling of his balance team, to the dismissal of the PvP community’s problems, to the overall mismanagement of concerns arising in the greater AO community in the vetcord. It leads me to believe that there isn’t a concern for the game’s community and long term player base in the development of this game.
If the game continues on its current trajectory it will crash and burn. Players have been alienated from the game by the developer himself, updates are adding content bloat that nobody asked for over impactful necessary changes that impact the game’s gameplay. And the current content of the game, might I remind you is just a step away from Full Release, still lacks a consistent gameplay loop to keep people playing, and sadly fishing does not count as a consistent gameplay loop.
I wrote this to bring these problems to light as I want Arcane Odyssey to continue on and be what it can be. But until something changes I can’t see it happening. The larger overarching issues I want to address are Disrespect of the Balance Team, Disrespect of the PvP Community, and Disrespect of the Greater Arcane Odyssey Community, starting with. Sources at the bottom of the doc.
Disrespect of the Arcane Odyssey Balance Team
The mishandling of the balancing team for Arcane Odyssey has been nothing short of abhorrent from Vetex’s end. Only recently has there been talks of connecting the balance team to the Vetex’s Games discord server. Up to this point the most communication there has been between Vetex and his own Balance Team has been a weekly/bi-weekly Q&A between Metapoly and Vetex.
Bluntly put, Vetex is not in his own game’s balancing discord. He does not talk with his own balancing team. He does not even know who is on his balancing team (Source 2). As such, he does not know how qualified they are to comment on the game’s balance. This results in a slew of vetoed changes for no reason, PvP and PvE alike. It’s reached the point where there is a terrible precedent set in the private BTeam server where changes need to be made based on whether Vetex will do them, rather than if they are what needs to be done (Source 3).
Next it is pretty well common knowledge that Vetex never includes the entire balancing document in the updates. From Vetex, and I quote:
“Balance doc is like 15 pages of number changes”
“Bruh im about to just do the highlighted shit then be done”
“So fucking boring” (Source 14)
It’s also been seen that back in October, Vetex was given 21 balance changes to do, nearly all of which being number changes, and only did 2 of them (Source 4). Not to mention the notable history of the balance docs not being done in their entirety. Random vetoes without reason provided (Source 5 and 6.)
Lastly, the way he treats his balance team is disgusting. The Arcane Odyssey Balancing Team is a volunteer group of people balancing out of their own interest and passion for the game’s development. For their kindness, they are turned into the scapegoat for vetex in the event of questionable balance (Source 7). Their balancing and time is blatantly disrespected as Vetex is not in the balancing discord to engage with them. Their changes are disregarded, vetoed, and ignored.
On top of that despite being game balancers, they do not have access to the game’s test universe (Source 5, check the roles of people with the Balance Team role), and worst of all when asked to add more BTeam members as testers, he said “I don’t like those people” despite not knowing who was actually on the balance team.
Disrespect of the Arcane Odyssey PvP Community
The Balance Team is far from the only part of the community Vetex has mistreated. The PvP player base has also been subjected to his wrath. Case in point being the Mistral Update. The update as a whole was an insult to the PvPHeads. Atrocious combat bugs galore. Inverted Size, Inverted Speed, Bleed Stacking. These were some but not all of the major game breaking bugs that were in the game at the time, Bugs that we were stuck with for months on end. Source? Vetex sent his rant on June 8th 2024, and Empires launched on September 27th 2024, That is three months of the worst state the game has ever been in (Source 1 and 8).
Additionally with the fix to the Mistral Update’s balance, came a long winded angry post in the news channel absolutely lambasting his PvP Playerbase. Claimed all of their frustrations and anger about the update was just doomposting and niche interactions that 90% of the player base wouldn't see (Source 1). He said he hates his PvP Players and that he would remove PvP if it wouldn’t kill the game. In this rant he alienated all of the players of his community that actually found replayability within Arcane Odyssey in one fell swoop.
He lied to his community in the same post claiming there will never be combat focused updates. Despite the very next update being the Empires Update with the star focus being on clan wars and clan building, Inherently PvP mechanics. He complains about balancing taking more than a week to do, when the only reason it’s taking so long is because of the neglect towards the balance doc causing it to pile up. He claims that any and all of the massive gamebreaking combat bugs could be fixed in a hot fix that never came as seen in the 3 month period of the worst update Arcane Odyssey has ever seen.
Yet despite all of the problems and precious time it would take for Vetex to add all of the combat fixes and changes. He still manages to find time to add the least impactful frustrating world building additions possible. Tanning was added to the game, which nobody liked. So instead of removing it, he added a new type of food to the game to counteract it, and justified it by adding a zone blocking off a large portion of Sameria. This time could have been spent on balancing.
But when he does balance he takes the easy route. For example instead of adding a detection range to atlanteans to counterbalance Invisibility allowing free farming of Dark Sealed Chests, he just allowed Atlanteans to see through all invisibility no matter what. He’s even employed balance related changes preferring world building and “canon strength”. See the unlock requirement for rare skill scrolls back on Nimbus Launch completely arbitrarily nerfing every class in the game (Source 9).
To put it to you bluntly, Vetex has taken every effort humanly possible to isolate and alienate his PvP player base while relying on them to maintain his game for the over 9 month wait for Full Release. You can’t maintain a game while pushing away the players who support it. Despite you saying you don’t owe anyone anything (Source 1), you do. Your game would be nowhere without the people playing it.
Disrespect of the Arcane Odyssey Community
Lastly is the disrespect of the greater Arcane Odyssey Community. I think we’re all plenty familiar with the recent, “Strong Warrior” incident (Source 10). I’m not here to discuss the names themselves though, I have an issue with how Vetex handled the situation. Vetex was getting flamed for the decision and while I disagree with the insults I also doubt anything would have been done otherwise. But regardless Vetex results to playground insults and acting patronizing towards them when he backs down. (Source 11 and 12).
Then there’s the current state of the endgame content of Arcane Odyssey. The endgame loop is the least fulfilling I’ve seen in any game period. The only effective replayability this game has is PvP. The PvE community has not seen any new real PvE content from between the Dark Sea, and Empires when Evander and Fort Castrum was added. Do you genuinely believe this is a fulfilling gameplay experience? For a game that prides itself on its story and player vs environment content, there isn’t a whole lot to speak of.
Is this how you want your community to view you? Do you want them to resent you, hate your decisions, and be afraid to speak up at risk of being banned from the server (Source 13). You’re pushing away every member of your community, something I didn’t even think was possible to manage.
Conclusion
In conclusion, I’m tired of sitting back and seeing Vetex tear apart his community limb from limb. These are people who have gathered together as a community, to celebrate your game. We all want to see Arcane Odyssey become something great. Not to see you stroking your ego and angering us at every turn.
This game has incredible potential if only you just realize it. Take inspiration from other MMOs if you need to so we can have better endgame content, Provide better support for the PvP player base so that they have a game with combat they can enjoy, and for the love of god stop treating your balance team like garbage. Get it together and this game could be the shining peak of roblox.
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Ao is fine Vetex has been slowly putting together a development team, work progress has increased tenfold. I don’t think ur even looking at the trello, moochez has been doing balancing changes all week. Vetex is probably cranking story development as we speak. Vetex has been dedicated to this project for a LONG time now. If balance team has issues with Vetex that’s between them and Vetex. Idk why balance team always announces Vetex as the problem to everyone else, they suck I’d hate them if I were Vetex too. They can genuinely quit and it would make 0 difference because none of the balance changes they do are super creative. everything they change is either super obvious or simple number changes Vetex doesn’t need balance team tbf . They are jus a bunch of complacent pussies. I blame @Meta poor leader can’t get his team to contribute anything of substantial value for a lick.
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also fr, we got
multiple balance changes in multiple patches
all eagle spirit wep moves + swordstep
towering impact ability
sunken staff ULT
bow breaker
multiple bug fixes
idk why i feel like i left a wep ability out but it can just be my imagination
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keep crying about how vetex doesnt want to talk to u lil bro 