Why are like half the Warlord imbues just genuinely worse than the closest magic counterpart?

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Is there something I’m missing? Surely there’s no way that they just left Warlord as worse conjuror

To be clear, this isn’t the magic or Fighting Style’s stats, it’s how a weapon’s stats change when you imbue this magic/FStyle on to it.

Boxing

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Wind
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For the loss of 0.025x speed, you gain 0.2x size

Iron Leg

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Metal
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Literally just better stats across the board???

Thermo Fist

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Light
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According to gear builder Thermo actually changes damage to 0.93x if you factor in the full DOT, but that’s still a marginal improvement considering Light: does 0.9x without needing to rely on a DOT and has better size

Basic Combat

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Shadow
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better size and speed for a small damage decrease, not much to say here

Sailor Style

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Water
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Unlike the others, Sailor Fist actually beats the Water imbue, being exactly the same but it doesn’t reduce your damage.

Not putting cannon fist here because idk how its imbues work

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To come up with an explanation, it may be because Strength Weapons even it out.

I’d agree that it probably is just casual Magic lover pizza.

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In literally what way.

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They’re on the power degree of Warrior weapons, but you can add imbuement, unlike warriors.

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I guess we’d better nerf conjuror when arcanium weapons come out, just for parity…

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Potentially.

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you forgot one thing
inlore, Magic trumps all(things are just relatively “balanced” for gameplay)

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Magic used to trump all.
Now we have Spirit Energy, Weapon Aura, and whatever Fighting Aura is.

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true
now I just think that bteam hates warlord/fighting imbues

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i actually think warlords are just better than conjurers in every way but you do have a point

ig imbue isn’t everything

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Because magic imbues are overtuned across the board

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Common metal conj w…

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Oh yeah also to answer this it’s because the affinities for stats on fs are calculated differently than on magic, hence why thermo despite having like half the stats of light is still on par in terms of actual gameplay

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@raptoes agenda.

Jokes aside, balance changes (especially those done in v1.13) are responsible for this, and the balance team feels as though fighting style imbued weapons shouldn’t be as efficient as their magical counterparts.

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What’s the reason for them feeling this way?

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thermofist-ism

they still have PTSD from the warlords

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heres how i see it:

mage imbues are strong because it helps catch the weapons (which are mostly rushdown imo) up with the godlike zoning that magic has

fs imbues dont need this as much, as they are also rushdown and can work very nicely with weapons already, so the stats arent as strong.

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so what you are telling me is buff jugg imbue? :face_holding_back_tears:

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nope, nerf thermo fist

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my thermo jugg is seething rn