Why arnt guns more common?

maybe, maybe not
the cannon lore is weird

That is one hell of an answer that I did not think of :+1:

yk what happened when we had a gun-based army in a world with “magic”?

the main advantages of gun/firearms are range and the fact that anyone can use them, a child can use a gun to kill a well-trained warrior no issue (assuming it hit but the fact that its a feasible possibility is already a big fucking thing)

meanwhile in AO the humans have superhuman strength and durability so that allow them to send out ranged air slashes and shockwaves as well as quickly closing the distance between them and their opponents, meaning guns, while still deal higher damage, is not as useful

however, the most important factor might be the fact that firearms have a “fixed” damage, to, canonically speaking, deal higher damage with a gun you need to make better guns/bullets, pressing the trigger harder or some shit wont make your attacks any stronger

meanwhile, which other “rudimentary” weapons, if you swing harder, you deals more damage

ofc, you would also need better weapons to withstand the force you deal out but imo its a lot less costly and the fact that in order to be stronger at using melee weapon you will need to strengthen your body itself, so basically two birds with one stone

guns probably also need this, yes, due to recoil and whatever, but imo will still be at a lower level since its still limited by technology level which progress rather slowly in arcane verse thanks to the existence of magic, war and world-ending/kingdom-ending/region-ending events that happen everynow and then, so its just more efficient to strengthen your body instead

theres also the cost of manufactoring ofc, why make guns and bullets, which as i stated before wont be of much used to the higher level humans of arcane verse due to their superhuman level physical prowess, when you can make better melee weapons that can be used for much longer and more reliable?

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this is just fanon, its your own head canon and i dont know why people are agreeing with this

the truthful, unironic answer is just that vetex wanted it to look like that, he’s clearly a fan of game of thrones/asoiaf so he wanted to replicate that aesthetic despite it’s dubious connotations on the arcane lore

also to disprove this, AGAIN you need to remember that mages are the minority and kingdoms only have populations in the tens of thousands, mages are an oddity, and POWERFUL mages are abnormalities that are stupidly rare and unlikely to be accounted for by nations

+to add on what maria rightfully said this point doesnt even make sense even if we account your take because as maria very correctly said (as it occured in history aswell, eg bowmen replaced by early guns):

guns are simply superior, and in a logical world if we were to take your little head canon, it would be null and without sensibility lol

as ive said, they are good for people whose physical prowess has not reached superhuman levels, to those who have already has

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yea which is the bulk of the population, mages are the minority, not the majority

iirc everyone has magic energy (literally life force from what i recall) in their body and can use that to amplifies their physical prowess through aura/tracing, so that would mean through enough training anyone can reach superhuman level of physical prowess right?

you’re assuming the average person WANTS to do this, the average person is just your casual unenlightened feudal underling, probably cant read, write etc. , likely will just die on a farm or other fundamental job like smithery

aside from militarized cultures from keraxe where this theory could lowk make alot of sense seeing as they use neither magic nor guns, this probably just doesnt really apply to the majority of people

okay but, are we not talking about army/military here?

the kinda of people who would have very good discipline (bcs this is a fantasy world and not irl) and would obviously wants to be as strong as possible to defend their nation (bcs this is a fantasy world and not irl)?

When did I mention mages? Please, point to me where I did that

Also I don’t know why you use Maria’s post to discredit what I said when it agrees to what I said

look at your messages, child. don’t ever speak back to a superior child of cerulea like that again


Neither of these mention mages, I think you’ve been hitting the cursed shrooms a bit too much pal

Export costs. Go fucking figure.

Ravenna just doing the roman larp that hard

red again cuz iam righ and you’re wrong LMAO

another question, why in a world of magic, guns, and cannons, are people still using bows?

stealth

aura affects guns too, their damage isn’t fixed

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still to a lesser extend imo, with melee weapon aka it has the force of both the enhanced weapon and the enhanced body of yours combined, meanwhile with the gun only the bullets become enhanced