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That came off as more than a bit… how you say… zesty, Hyperspace.
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Man, these topics never fail to bring in the views, do they?
I don’t see how that is a positive, it’s just wasting my time when I’d rather be changing my outfits and collecting items
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It’s because they are the minority
1578 + 429 = 2,007 (people that want more infamy from hunts)
1850 + 957 = 2,807 (people that don’t care and don’t want it changed)
2,807 > 2,007
Was that Captain_Korlex
Do we really still need to be arguing about this? Hasn’t this already been addressed with the PvP toggle announcement?
There’s no competition anymore since both the renown and infamy leaderboards have custom abusers
so not only was the poll completely irrelevant to the discussion, it also didn’t even support his own claim even when his backwards nonsense mental gymnastics are in play.
amazing.
you know what? this is just more evidence to my own claim:
The massively PvP biased poll has more PvE players voting on it than PvPers.
Even when biased towards them, they fail to end up being the majority.
i said or, not and. the people that dont care dont align with the people that do care and dont want it changed
it isnt irrelevant, also why would vetex, who hates pvp make a pvp biased poll? how the fuck is it pvp biased when it concerns both demographics, and the fact “it has more pve players voting on it” backs up my statement as to how it affects them? yo i deadass wanna vc with you i need to hear this in real time
you tell me why he did, but he obviously did.
I don’t know how delusional you have to be to genuinely think that a poll that only involved bounty hunting (a solely PvP mechanic) isn’t biased towards PvP.
yeah go on ignore everything else i said without addressing it, yk you cant put up a good argument
I already acknowledged it and was ignored, much like how you just ignored it again.
I am fully aware that you’re not interested in and/or incapable of an actual discussion.
You do not have to make it clearer than it already is.
You aren’t subtle, you aren’t fooling anyone, anybody with eyes can see you deliberately twist the data to fit your narrative, despite the fact that literally everyone knows that you’re wrong.
Even most of the PvP community knows that they are not the primary intended audience or the majority of the playerbase.
I don’t even know why you’re so desperate to do this in the first place when this entire topic was you asking a question that I’ve already answered.
“Why do some players complain about toxicity in PvP?”
Its all about perspective.
I can tell you and have already told you exactly why and then some.
Just because you do not like the answer does not make it untruthful.
I don’t even like my own answer, but it would be dishonest of me to claim its something else.
You just come off as horribly desperate to argue.
I’ve started reading this thread just to see the hellishly bad takes from both sides but man you guys are dragging this. I don’t even know what the fuck y’all are arguing about anymore. We are getting the pvp toggle and that’s it. I don’t get what you guys are still doing here?
This topic reeks of bait but apparently the OP actually buckled in and started seriously arguing. I’m sorry if I’m wrong about this but if I am then man what are y’all still arguing about? Whose views do you want to change? Arguing here won’t make vetex undo the pvp toggle and why would he? With the toggle PvPers get to fight each other without having to come across runners or disgruntled PvErs as often.
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me when my alt file has 20k more renown than my main file:
Its mostly that this guy is dead set on using some random vaguely related poll to argue that PvPers are the majority of the community.
I already answered his question and he got mad about it and then it spiraled into this nonsense.
This is such a “get real” comment and i love it.
a bit off topic but I really hope we get more infamy from hunts tho tbh 
i miss back when hunting an average clan player gave 100 infamy
those were the days…