Why Does Particles Go Outward When Charging Magic Energy?

Shouldn’t it be going towards the user since the user is absorbing magic energy?

If anyone knows why, i’d like to know it since I dont really get it. Tried looking at the lore to see if it has any explanation to it but no luck.

  1. i don’t think it’s really scientific/that specific
  2. looks cooler
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maybe it’s more like it’s being gathered and most of it is absorbed and then the excess is dispersed into the air, which is why it’s going outwards

like electricity and how only some of it is used and the rest is turned into uneeded energy stores like heat

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Even without the magic energy bar being full, the particles are still going outward.

a type of possible logical explanation would be the magic in the air has a stronger force that repeatedly pulls out magic as more magic also goes into your body idk

nah nah that’s what i’m saying, cause electronic sources of energy don’t have a 100% efficiency rate,

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i was saying it’s similar to that but instead of being turned into wasted heat energy (like when your laptop battery heats up) it just disperses into the air

the real explanation is probably that it just looks cool and it’s probably based off ki charging from db

Or probs the human acts more of a funnel.

Double Curve Funnel Shaped Skylight. Architectural Glass Steel Structure of  a Dome. Parametric Design Stock Photo - Alamy

There’s a possibility that all the magic gets absorbed in the upper areas as represented with this skylight structure, thus flushing away excess and renewing mana pools. After all, humans can’t keep in their own waste, they must defecate the waste. Even if we expel the mana through magical attacks, there can be left overs needed to be renewed.

shit yeah maybe

there’s a pretty good chance vetex didn’t think too deep about it tho and we’re all just overthinking lol

Vetex has confirmed that he does not think too deeply about the inner workings of magic and science. He and his dev team focuses on developing the game and the lore much more than elaborating specifics of every nook and cranny.

If Vetex and his team does do all these time consuming jobs, then us as a community can conjure controversial topics of pseudo-science based on the real world logic we live in today. There could also be that small possibility that our ideas will be implemented, but of course seeing as taking time to concern logic with magic, it may not be ideal for him to worry on such a menial idea only to realize that in order to fit all these ideas he’ll have to revamp magic systems in the near future.

fun to think about tho

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Looks cool… I bet that is the official answer. Good enough for me.

But that doesn’t stop us from making things up, so I will join in the making up of things and throw another theory in.

So, since it’s magic energy, we can assume thermodynamics apply.
Since we have some leaks, that means the transfer is not 100% efficient (I know someone said this exact thing already, but I’ll try and juice it up with some more physics).

So, magic energy is being pulled from your surroundings into your body and stored in whichever way, since we have some losses, and the 2nd law of thermodynamics should apply, the excess energy gets converted to the only thing that makes sense - your very magic.

Now comes the juicy part, I hope.
We have info saying that magic hurts you by reacting violently with the magic energy that’s inside everyone, so we can assume that magic energy in energy form, and magic energy in magic form don’t mix too well on their own, hence why we need dedicated attack spells to hurt others, and high jumps could work by manifesting magic I such a way for it to be launched back by reacting with your own magic energy, while the law of conservation of momentum guarantees you move as well, but in the opposite direction.

So, the magic energy is being pulled from your surrounding into your body, and losses occur as it is entering you where it gets converted to just your magic.
Since we concluded magic and magic energy push each other away, the magic created on your skin disperses outwards.

I think this headcannon is very consistent with the in-game mechanics, too.
High level magic users, with higher tier magics, have more pronounced charging effects, and this makes sense. They have a higher concentration of magic energy inside them, and pull more of it in, resulting in more magic being manifested as losses, and stronger pushing forces on that magic from inside you, resulting in a bombastic charging animation.

Also the big boom when your magic energy and gets filled.
Magic energy is being pulled towards you, but it can no longer enter, hence you as a magic user probably have to convert it into just magic to not overfill and hurt yourself or something.
A lot of magic around you + a high concentration of magic energy in you = the magic gets pushed away in a bang.


Quite a bit of text, but this was quite fun to think about to be frank.

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Well that part would make sense, your body can’t hold anymore so the energy is being repelled, maybe if Vetex reversed the flow of the particles it would look more accurate but I don’t know if it would look good

This type of detail is trivial, whether or not it makes sense doesn’t matter in this situation. What does matter is if it looks good or not.

Maybe it could be like some sort of radiating magic energy. Vetex and all those peeps did not really put much emphasis onto how exactly magic works as that could be a waste of time in their view.

Keep in mind that magic don’t have to make sense, Vetex said so in one of my post. But good theory you’re having here, keep going

What I’m more interested is the anatomy of every magic user. Again, Vetex made it CANON that everyone CAN use magic. Of course everyone has the “mind”. Unlocking one unlocks your main magic, but most of the citizens are pacifistic non-magic users.

That bodes the question… is there some kind of organ, some kind of gene, some kind of requirement for the body to unlock the mind? Meditation to hone focus with your own spirit, thus your magic? Some type of distress signal depending on levels of adrenaline or huge amounts of emotion that allows for obtaining the key to the arcane?

And even when we have the science for how magic works, what in our bodies do we have that makes us feel the pain. How are we not dead by all the wounds? When we level up we of course gain more mana and stamina but WHY health? Why have we become so healthy? It’s been proven that curse users can be immortal due to merging with the element, but has it gone as far as to twist genetics to allow us resistance against that curse’s element?

Is there a bile sack that produces magic just like The Owl House episode series? Or are we born with separate receptors that receive and project magic. Another dire question, Where the fuck does the magic circle come from? Why is it so refined as opposed to blast magics? Did we draw it? If we didn’t see it in the first place then how did we “summon it”.

Aside from all the questions, my theory on this is that magic circles are similar to the crystalline structures of crystals. There is a reason why they form in specific ways, for example “Cubic, Monoclinic, Tetragonal, etc.”, and that’s because of the natural law of atomic bonds. Specific elements that bond together, making this defined , almost uniform shape. There may quite possibly be the neutral energies that float around the air like normal oxygen while it reacts with your projective forced, i.e. putting your hand up and excreting energy, which uses up mana, which summons the circle, which summons your attack, also explaining for the sudden burst of that magic element that came out of the magic circle.

You don’t absorb the elemental particles when charging, you literally absorb the magic in the air
I guess what’s coming out is some sort of surplus that you eject in the form of your element when charging of something.

Explaining how we store chemical energy is complicated enough, how possibly would we explain storing and using a fictional type of energy like magic energy?
Oh I know, with an overthought headcannon based on how things work in real life for something similar!

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This one might be a bit weird cuz it’s about biology, and idk how good my biology is, to be frank.

Ok so, chemical energy that you use for moving and everything else is stored and used at a cellular level, where the mighty mitochondria plays a big role in binding ATP and so on.
So, for storing and using magic energy (which we assume just exist, I doubt that could be sensibly explained) we gotta have a magic organelle in every cell, let’s call it the magozome, because it’s shorter than “the magic organelle” and I can’t be bothered to make up a better name.

So, everyones gotta have these in their whole body, and we know lore wise you regenerate magic energy passively, by resting, but in-game that would be very boring so you can charge it quickly.
Lore wise, the magozome works by passively converting magic energy from your surroundings into some form in which it’s stored.
Gameplay wise, you probably have a way to make it work overdrive, like how you can flex or relax a muscle, to charge quickly.

Since everyone has the magozomes, everyone has magic energy inside them. And like with chemical energy, you could be hungry, tired, exhausted, muscles sore and whatever else, but that doesn’t mean there’s no energy in your body, same applies here. Even if you don’t have enough to cast a spell, doesn’t mean there isn’t enough to react violently with magic attacks that hit you and thus cause you harm.

Not everyone is able to use this magic energy, however, and that is decided by genes, so we gotta have an extra magic chromosome (it’s alright, make your jokes now).
Like with other genes, you inherit these from your parents, but their effectiveness varies.
Some are prodigies, able to use their magics at a young age, and other simply never will.

Those that are able to use magic are actually able to put their magozomes in an active state, releasing the stored magic energy and controlling it in some manner.

Primitive magic would probably be just releasing it straight out, trying to shape it while it violently reacts with the magic energy within you and spurs out with raw power. It is possible to shape it however you want, since you do it inside of you, probably giving you much more control over it, and then releasing it, harming yourself on the cellular level in the process.
This would put stress on all cells in your body, probably leaving permanent damage which speeds up the process of cells dying after replicating too many times, or with too many errors, thus decreasing your lifespan.

Now augmented magic, on the other hand, would probably be not just summoning the magic from within.
I imagine you somehow use the energy in small amounts, carefully weaving it in such a way to allow easy flow of magic energy out of you, which then gets shaped into whichever magic you use.
You use magic energy to form the circle, a gateway for more energy to pass through, being shaped in the process, the side effect being that the form the magic takes depends on how you’re able to construct the gateway, which again depends on your genetics.

How would this increase you lifespan? No idea, but imma make something up just like I’ve being doing until now.
I’m guessing using magic energy in such a manner, allowing in to flow through you without much impedance, has positive effects on your very cells.
The magozomes, while being used in this manner, might revitalise your cells and allow them to divide many more times with a lot less errors, thus delaying your death.

So yeah, basically, you have a magical mitochondria, a magical chromosome, and you use the magic energy to let the magic energy flow and shape better than just releasing it out and trying to force it into shape along the way.

Welp, I wrote a lot of this, I should be sleeping, what am I doing with my life…

I was thinking about db too. Cause we seen high level charging from vetex and its just on a bigger scale. However, ultra instinct has this calm and controlled aura. It is efficient and has no waste which define the high level and control that the user possesses.

From the way I see it:
You absorb the magic energy as is, but due to the influence your body has over it, and how magic energy is always around, when your mind attunes the magic energy and absorbs it, you also influence the magic energy in the air around you. It’s probably why Immense Magic Energy works.