Why is thermo warlord attack speed the same and light conjurer

[wbefav]

I always wondered why plasma conjurer isn’t as good as thermo warlord.

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Right now , if you use the wiki formula for warlord
SPEED & PROJECTILE SPEED: WeaponSpeed × FightingStyleSpeed

Thermo warlord weapon speed: 1*1.4
You get 1.4 attack speed for thermo warlord

If you use the light conjurer formula
SPEED: WeaponSpeed × (1 + (MagicSpeed - 1) / 2)

Light conjurer weapon speed: 1* (1+(1.8-1)/2)
You get 1.4 attack speed for light conjurer.

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The difference between formula can cause some unbalancing between warlord and conjurer weapons

Warlord— SPEED : WeaponSpeed × FightingStyleSpeed
Conjurer—SPEED: WeaponSpeed × (1 + (MagicSpeed - 1) / 2)

light conjurer is getting totally outclassed because thermo warlord dmg is much higher and the formula makes them have the same attack speed. (ik light conj has 1.8 proj speed but that isn’t as useful with the meta being sunken sword and ptd)

This is for munera pvp and competition where heat is easy to maintain, thermo kinda sucks in wild.

There is also boxing in the same situation

Also the formula can also make things like iron leg warlord straight up trash without the warlord weopons compared to something like metal conjurer

[Flare]

Does anybody ever think about the different effects that magic does and therma?

This is fair a trade.

[OnionCream]

because light conjurer’s don’t have a heat bar they need to maintain

[wbefav]

Is it thermo and boxing warlord already got nerfed and they are still meta.
Heat is easy to maintain in high end elysium pvp but hard in the wild

Maybe thermo needs to be reworked

[Dudeman]

WELCOME TO OUR CLUB

[FridgeUchiha]

Thermo lord is good but still requires alot of skill… conjurers and warlockes that arent aoe based arent that great rn because
1: they cant use blast shapes
2: most mage skills benefit aoe magics more than than non aoe magics like light.

Light mage is good because u can use hit scan beam and use blast shapes together to get rlly good dps from far or close.

Light conj will be alot easier to use once level cap raises its still good but you have to have really good aim and reaction skills.

[FridgeUchiha]

Thermo only good when good players use it u have to actually aim unlike using aoe builds like ice sailors and such

[wbefav]

The point I was trying to make is the flaw in the attack speed math formula for conjurers weapons compared to warlords weapons.

Not if light mage is better or light conjurer will be better in the future

[FridgeUchiha]

ye i kinda realized i was on a tangent half way thru writing that and i was like uk wt imma just commit and let myself cook.

[wbefav]

Made it easier to read since people kinda didn’t understand what I was saying