You guys ruined Neko's funni post so Meta told me to move it here >:T

Why? You had no problem with communicating your problem with me, so why? I guess I’m just supposed to not say anything when I’m offended. That doesn’t make me tough skinned, that makes me a bitch. If I want something not to be done, I say that I don’t want it to be done. Simple.

Although this isn’t the case right now, words do have permanence. Just because you can stop listening to someone when they’re talking about you doesn’t mean that the impact of the words leave too.

For someone who was calling me out for being soft, you sure were quick to start insulting me.

The n-word is a joke now? To who? The fuck?

ok…guys this is getting a bit off topic and yall have started arguing about a word

it’s sometimes offensive but not all the time…chillax

it legit means a person who travels from place to place who originated in some place blah blah

because the problem you were trying to present has ceased its existence long before you even made an account

get used to it, nothing else you can do, trying to force people to not act like themselves, but act like their ‘‘real’’ self is only gonna make you look like one of ‘them’ and you will be ignored or someone will come and start flaming you for being so annoying

no idea what’s so soft about not hesitating to insult something you despise but aight

Oh I don’t know maybe all of 4chan? a big part of reddit?

a bunch of discord servers that I’m in?

to all of my friends?

they literally don’t care if you say the nword or not, it all depends on the context, but 99.999% of the time the use of the nword is the same as ‘dude’ ‘that guy’, or it’s used to spice up a meme or people just say it because they like to say it, like me, I put almost 0 meaning being the nword and nobody has a problem with it

it’s just filler now

Respectful heavy disagree, it’s not the words themselves that are offensive, it’s the meaning that they are used to convey that can be offensive and derogatory, depending on context and person.
Like for example, I could be playing a video game with friends and one of them kills me for laughs, then I call him a “n#####f#####” (<- bad very bad, not ok for the forums words here) and he would just burst into laughter.

Anyways, I disagree that if something is offensive to someone it shouldn’t be done. Offensivenes is not measure of moral wrongness.
I say you can say whatever you want to whoever you want, with slight caveats, but those are reserved for yelling “bomb!” in a crowded place just for lols and making someone commit a crime and coercion and whatnot.
You can choose not to offend someone, by gthat depends on how well do you know them and how much you respect them.

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What problem? The title of the video, or the use of the word “gypsy”?

If someone’s actions or “real self” is offensive, then they ought to stop “acting like their real self”. People are not inherently one way or the other because they can and do change throughout their life. Learning to be less of a dick is one way in which this can happen. It isn’t “forcing someone to not be their real self”, it’s how societies work. I don’t really care who flames me for being annoying.

I mean that you have a quick fuse. The word “soft” in itself is weird to me, but I was saying that you were also being really quick to emotional reaction due to “some pixels on a screen”. Which is ok to me, but apparently not to you.
In essence, I was calling you a hypocrite.

the offensiveness of the word gypsy, not the use

try to force your ideologies on them all you want, it won’t work, not here, not on the internet, you may be able to persuade a few weakminded people but they will only get flamed for doing that shit eventually and go back to talking the way they used to

haha. you still don’t get it do you?

calling people who are mentally more resilient than you ‘‘dicks’’ just shows how insecure you are

it is your goal though isn’t it? you try to make someone stop acting the way they are even though they don’t want to, so you try to force them

fuck society

then don’t. but keep in mind that the people you are trying to… let’s say ‘‘educate’’ don’t care nor want to care who you are either, and they will only try to keep more distance the more you try to persuade them

Only for people like you

obraz

er…guys? are you guys gonna keep on arguing?

I think that the fact that the n-word is used in such a context (e.g. like when someone is raging) is already indicative of its implications. The use of the n-word as a term similar to “dude” springs from its use as a derogatory term and was an attempt to reclaim the word. I treat it in a similar fashion to words used to describe the disabled. It’s perfectly fine for it to be used in context of a disabled person referring to a disabled person since they are within the same sphere, and the word can not in most cases be construed as offensive. If a non-disabled person does it, however, there is an obvious difference which is probably going to be imperceptible to those outside of that sphere.

I have neither the power nor the desire to actually force you not to say what you want to say. I will speak on it, though.

I feel as though I could have phrased my words better. Thinking about it, that would be like saying that if what I said was offensive to a single individual in this entire forum, then I should close shop. Obviously an impractical way to communicate. When I said that it was offensive, I was referring specifically to the offense that racial epithets such as the n-word or gypsy carry with them. That specific kind of offense.

That’s obviously true, as well. In all honestly, anyone can choose to do anything that is within the realm of possibility for a human being. Choosing not to offend someone by how well you know them doesn’t sit right with me, though. I believe that trying to not offend people unnecessarily is a basic human dignity you can provide to them.

I agree with the respect part, though.

cool bro so you assume the entirety of a words meaning from a single scenario?

and it works because people are doing it??

it wasn’t offensive to a single person on the entire planet, just incredbily annoying and unneeded

cool bro no one cares about the old ass history of a word that was bad some time ago but has lost its meaning completely and is just seen as cringe now

we already do it bruh

I doubt you know whether that is true or not. I might be wrong, though. Except you are an actual “gypsy”, I don’t see what input you can provide on the relevance of the word’s offensiveness.

Keep what you just said in mind when reading the next quote.

The mechanism you described in the previous one is the very same as the one which I am proposing. Like it or not, this is how people work. People force the status quo, the general idea of what is acceptable or not, on others whether actively or passively. That’s how social spheres work, and it doesn’t matter whether you are conscious of it or not, but every time you make an opinion online you are indirectly enforcing your view on what is acceptable and what isn’t on people and testing their ability to withstand its pressure. This isn’t as apparent in casual speech, obviously, since nothing of real significance is being said.

Whether it works or not does not concern me. After all, I know nobody on this forum, and my view of you and yours of me will likely never actually affect us.

Mental resilience? What do you know about that? How do you define “mental resilience”. Enlighten me.

Sentimentality is a part of humanity. I don’t take shame in it. I find it odd that you seem to do so.

…okay guys this is either gonna go too far or this thread is gonna be closed ;-;

or it could end

Bro you’re lack of summarization offends me, stop typing essays I’m gonna go grab some popcorn and be back.

yo i gotchu

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Obviously not, that’s not what “indicative” means in this case.

People are reclaiming the word? I don’t think some random person using the n-word is an example of successfully reclaiming a word, but ok.

Annoyance is a reaction to offense.

Not you, obviously. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean that no one does.

Who is “we”?

That doesn’t bother me.

…this concerns me

This is hardly as long as an essay.
An essay, for instance, doesn’t usually take about 1 ~ 3 minutes to type.