You now get an add on power. You now have the power of your forum pfp. How much more powerful do you become?

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Guess I have a small amount of plot armor now

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help

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i get the power of a casual reality warper from thinking. so i guess i can overwrite everything…xD

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I guess I have my own personal moon :woman_shrugging:

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Time Manipulation.

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  • SCP-2747 (Depends on who writes it)
  • SCP 3125 (Keypad entered 55555)
  • SCP-2264
  • SCP-5000 (True nature of Life)
  • SCP-2480
  • SCP-1440

Idk about Battler but these scp should be able to kill him

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I’m comically overpowered… damn.

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Comically large cock/single/proud furry/paraphiliac/NOT a pedo

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I get early access to Electron primordial.

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So these guys are able to stop the entire story, erase the entire character from existence, and basically have the only power that is almost on the same level of omnipotence? If that’s the case then jesus christ those are some op scps

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just great
i get flimsy noodle limbs and i can be eaten without people going “cannibal ew” on the person who consumes me
absolutely lovely

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Scp-2747 is the interpretation of a perfect antagonist except it destroys the story and itself at the same time, say someone wrote a book, scp 2747 then the book might spontaneously combust, get oil poored on it, have all of the internet disable globally, collapse the multiverse, universe, etc as long as it’s in the confines of a story, and according to its logic, everything’s a story with authors 1 level higher than each other, so if the author who wrote whatever battler is, had the scp in his story, his story would no longer exist and that scp also wouldn’t have had evidence of existing.

Scp 3125 Is indescribable and slowly approaching the universe(Speed/Time can’t even define it though). It’s a mass of memetics/antimemetics with ideas that are simply incomprehensible, it has concepts that you can literally never understand and all existing concepts will be erased once it reaches. Any words used to describe anything simply wouldn’t be able to be thought of in its presence. It’s actually everywhere in every universe/multiverse except the specific containment which makes it an inverted containment. It’s the root cause of all concepts that exist. If something didn’t make sense, it’s because you can’t conceptualize it.
(Scp 3125 is widely considered the strongest scp besides SCP 001-Swan’s proposal(It’s omnipotent so I didn’t want to mention it) but people use scp 3812 because it’s more of a person than a concept).

Scp 2264 has a really cool story, you can read it yourself, but is weaker than The Scarlet King, The Scarlet King would probs lose to battler too.

Scp 5000 is more of a concept, it’s the concept that compassion/pain and all emotion stew actually memetics and the truth of it allows people to escape compassion/pain. It’s not attacking you at all to know a truth, it’s simply removing something clouding you from it so idk if a mind break counts as a win or not so I’ll just say kinda win?

SCP 2480 is to summon Yaldaboth which is an elder god but he doesn’t have trans-multidimensional scaling so I’ll say he loses.

SCP 1440 gambled with death and won, that’s his only notable achievement other that coming from nowhere, no traces of history and even he doesn’t have the time to disclose it before disaster strikes and the disaster scales to the power of the people it’s pointed towards.
, it’s said to have no limits but I’ll say he still loses in this scenario then.

I’d say SCP-2747, SCP-3125, SCP 5000, and SCP 3812 would beat battler.

Didn’t include SCP-001-Swan’s proposal because that’s just straight up omnipotence and I don’t think omnipotent characters count.

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Except battler automatically has the ability to disable abilities. All he needs is

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This. And 2747 is done

So its infinite dimensional omnipresence. Stuff like that is barely a threat to battler

The theory goats can rinse the scarlet king. Battler ignores 2264

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Gg

Battler is beyond dimensional tiering. Among a bunch of other umineko characters

You know I don’t think I’ve provided enough feats for battler.

Here lemme pull up a respect thread

How powerful battler is

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“It’s useless, it’s all useless!”

Music: Dream end discharger

Biography

Battler Ushiromiya is the protagonist of the Umineko no Naku Koro ni series. Much of the series follows his battle with Beatrice in which he attempts to prove that the murders on Rokkenjima, of which he himself is a victim, could be committed by humans.

Battler is stubborn and doesn’t believe in magic, preventing everyone from entering the Golden Land, during the events of Legend of the Golden Witch. While Beatrice vows to show Battler the errors of his ways, Battler vows to crush her; thus, beginning the fight between them. Along the way, new foes and allies enter the fray and, soon, Battler finds himself fighting over something even more precious: the truth behind Beatrice herself and the world she created.

Umineko Canon

Umineko, as far as canon goes, holds the manga and original VN as the word on what is canon (Source: Say it in Red Interview). This is why I will be using both Manga and VN materials in this thread. They are:

  1. Umineko no Naku Koro Ni (Ep. 1-4)
  2. Umineko no Naku Koro Ni Chiru (Ep. 5-6)
  3. Umineko no Naku Koro Ni Hane
  4. Umineko no Naku Koro Ni Tsubasa
  5. Umineko ni Naku Koro Ni Manga Volumes 1 - 8.

Cosmology

Umineko is tiered by levels of existence. Occasionally these are referred to as “dimension” but more with the understanding that dimension equates to plane. Those levels of existence were comparable to an infinite ladder.

Low on these levels are game boards. Parallel worlds converge through them, as shown by the Episode 6 gameboard residing in the meta-world, prepared beforehand. Above the game boards, there’s the Meta-World and other lower Worlds. All of this only encompasses a CatBox, a Fragment, or a Book.

Above this is the Sea of Fragments, an endless sea where Fragments are located. Those Fragments, or Kakera, are fragments of light that represents infinite parallel universes with endless possibilities and they came into various shapes and forms, such as books or crystals with different contents (some contain a universe, others a multiverse or even more). Voyager Witches constantly travel across the infinite Sea to find a Fragment to escape their boredom.

There are more locations in the Sea or above it, like Heaven, Hell, Aurora’s Study, future worlds, etc., but the most important is The City of Books, one the highest known level of existence in Umineko (there’s hinted to be levels higher than the City, like the Realm of the Creator, or a higher world which the witch Featherine Augustus Aurora has access to it). The City of Books is a place where countless Fragments are stored as Books. The entire story of Umineko is noted to barely amount to a single book in the City, if that.

Terminology

Witches

According to the game, witches are human beings who gain power exceeding normal humans and can use them at will. The Witches are divided into three tiers:

  • Territory Lords: Witch/Sorcerer who are creators and rulers of a territory, as such when they stop thinking their territory will vanish, literally. But when they think again, it will simply be created again, this process can be repeated infinitely and it is still even less breathing to them. The Territory Lords are the gods of their Territory, being able to control anything in it, even the narrative.
  • Voyagers: Witches/Sorcerers who are far superior to Territory Lords, they can leave their Territories and travel beyond it, to the infinite Sea of Fragments and worlds higher than it. For them, concepts such as fate can be visualized and manipulated at will (insignificant as weaker beings can do much more impressive thing than this). The Voyagers are commonly known as being one step below Creators.
  • Creators: They are the pinnacle of witches, Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent. To Witches, they are no different than Gods. But being a Creator has a high price, as the Witch who attains this level would lose every restriction, even the ‘self’, and become part of The Creator. Featherine Augustus Aurora is the only known Witch to ever touch the Realm of The Creator and become one, and even her isn’t fully a Creator.

For Witches/Sorcerers is easier to kill and destroy with magic than to create, meaning their power to destroy is at least as good as the one to create.

Pieces

Pieces are the representation of the Territory Lords/Meta-World beings on the Gameboard, like Beatrice’s Piece, but can also represent the normal human beings of that Gameboard. Essentially, they are the avatars on the human world of being on a higher level of existence.

Golden Land

Golden Land is the highest reality of Beato’s territory. A higher abstract metaphysical world that exists outside the Gameboard. This world is Beato’s private realm and from here, she and every other beings here can view all lower worlds as a Chessboard, interact or messing with it at will (by creating their own Gameboard, play it and control the Pieces, decides where to move and if they don’t do anything, the Gameboard’s reality is forever stopped, for all eternity). From here, one can appear and travel to anywhere inside Beato’s territory at will.

Meta-World

Meta-World is the second highest reality. It resembles Rokkenjima at first until revealed by Tsubasa to be much vaster than that. This world is where all Meta-World Beings (or Meta-Beings) reside, it is known for encompassing several metaphysical worlds. In this place, all lower worlds can be viewed as a Chessboard, or they can manifest here in the form a crystal (including Fragments). In this world, concepts are meaningless to Meta-Being (even death and nonexistence). If they stop thinking, they will be die and be erased from existence but that doesn’t matter, it is simply a matter of interest and concern to them. Not even a weapon that negates all concepts upon summoning can do anything to them. Furthermore, they can create concepts by simply thinking (Battler creates the concept of gravity, for example) and they are so powerful that a single action of them in this world can become reality of endless worlds.

Truths

Truths are moves used in debates between human and witches, while they’re arguments they usually take the form of powerful conceptual weapons that damages the concept of her target. Because the truth is a conceptual move, it cannot be avoided, but can be confronted with other truths. Because truth is a conceptual move, it cannot be avoided, but can be confronted with other truths.The truths can take the forms of spears or other stuff like a dragon, swords, or stakes. (credit to Reddit user Alucard_Nosferatu for those scans)

  • Blue Truth: It’s used as a theory that works as counter-argument to the opponent’s statement. It usually takes the form of a stake that impales the opponent; the opponent cannot remove the stake without countering the Blue Truth’s argument using the Red Truth. The Blue Truth must abide by the Red Truth.
  • Red Truth: Anything said in red is an undeniable, absolute truth, and does not need to be backed up by proof, although it is impossible to lie using the Red Truth. However, a Red Truth can be interpreted in many different ways.
  • Golden Truth: An unique truth that can only be used by the Game Master. This truth works similarly to the Red Truth, and is equal in power - depending on the scenario, it can be stronger or weaker. When it is superior, it can easily deny even the Red Truth. Battler’s use of the Golden Truth demonstrates that he fully understands the rules of the game.

Meta-World Battler

His Meta-World counterpart, and has the ability to control his piece on the gameboard. His piece on the game board is human and unaware of the Meta-World, so it acts as an ordinary human of his age would.

Golden Sorcerer Battler

During the ending of End of the Golden Witch, Battler is named the “Endless Sorcerer” and “Golden Sorcerer” by Lambdadeltaafter he inherits Beatrice’s power and becomes the new Game Master. Being the Game Master and having Beatrice’s powers, all of her abilities and feats are valid for Battler as well, but on a higher level. (Beatrice’s RT)

Equipment: The Golden Longsword

The Red Key that impaled him turned gold due to Beato’s sacrifice and his new knowledge of the truth. Now it recognizes Battler as its master and shares the same properties of the Red Key. Through this, the Golden Longsword denies all concepts of evasion, escape, defense, buying time, and deals conceptual damage that denies the existence of its target.

Strength

Abilities

Defense

Endless Nine: A barrier formed because of Battler refusing to acknowledge the existence of the supernatural. Endless Nine grants him conceptual immunity to magic attacks. Magic resistance is scaled from 1-9; 1 being the weakest and 9 being complete immunity. Because of the Endless Magic, he can multiply the immunity to infinity (i.e. Endless Nine).

Speed

“I dedicate this tale to my beloved witch, Beatrice.”

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It’s not defensive though, his ability only disables actively defensive abilities. Say someone on the highest staircase of his world wrote his story, then it would just bypass it by hierarchy.(I did specify it depends on who writes it)

You realize Battler isn’t that high in the hierarchy, he’d still get rinsed by something that’s near omni-present and on a higher level.

I don’t think you understood SCP 5000, emotion is actually a memetic, so SCP 5000 doesn’t harm you at all, it quite literally heals you in a sense you’re no longer tied to life, it’s like if someone told you his dog is brown but you thought it was black, you’re view changed but you weren’t harmed directly. Also by the logic of his ability, he’d kill himself in the SCP universe in realization that emotion is purely memetic.

From 2 google searches and entering Reddit I’ve confirmed he does indeed get rinsed by scp 2747, scp 3812, and scp 5000, I couldn’t find anything on Battler vs SCP 3125

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I found someone else’s list on who rinsed battler

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Scp 5000 maybe ignored but idk how truth would work, does he get like defended from knowing the truth or does he learn it?

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Think of it as him announcing what happens in the story becoming truth.

Imagine you’re in a fight and say “I win” It becomes truth when you have such an ability.

Also divine is accurate in his post and I may have downplayed 2747

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Actually I looked into it, it’s apparently transcended even that definition. Infinite dimensional omnipresence/lack of presence I should say would be closer to pattern screamers like scp 000 which would likely lose.

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I hate you and myself.

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too powerful

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This thread turned from a meme into SCP discussion