A proposal for reworking the most tedious feature of AO: Modifiers

A proposal for reworking the most tedious feature of AO: Modifiers
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If I said they weren’t similar then my bad I’ll take that back. I’m arguing against OP’s suggestion so I disagree with it on the basis that it’d remove a large part of the similarity in obtainment that I pointed out. Increasing the drop rates would solve the issue without making enchants/modifiers even more similar, agreed?

No, because to be honest the main issue isn’t the rarity of modifiers, it’s the rarity of actual stat armor with modifiers,

It doesn’t matter how many modified items you get when 90% of them are fedoras or maid tops

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true
like i said silver chests should drop items that are a minimum of 50 levels below you and gold chests should always drop items that are upgradeable to your level

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Ngl you should suggest that

FLOOD SUGGESTIONS WITH DIFFERENT MODIFIERS REWORKS UNTIL ONE OF THEM IS ACCEPTED! DISREGARD THE BALANCE TEAM!

It’s a no true scotsman fallacy because we’re arguing about the features being similar or not. I point out a similarity, then he asks me to point out another similarity.

I’ve already proven that there’s a dissimilarity, now he’s changing the criteria of the argument to “point out a similarity except for that one”.

I think you’re confusing the no true scotsman fallacy with the idea of there being an answer to his question or not. Whether or not there’s an answer to his question it’s still a no true scotsman fallacy because of what I said above

good suggestion, gotta read the 300 replies now lol, it is very rare to have so much discussion here

facts my brethren

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I did not mean point out A disimilarity, I meant prove they arent SIMILAR.

Toilets and plates are both made out of porcelain, but you wouldn’t eat off a toilet or poop on a plate would you?

Then I missed the proof of the fallacy in question.
I think you should show the evidence that he’s asked you specifically to point out another similarity after you haven proven there’s a dissimilarity.

I did prove that they’re not similar, but you then asked me to do it again while excluding my original proof of the two not being similar, thereby changing the original request (proving that they’re not similar).

Sure, here

How, I apparently missed it.

Why is a simple suggestion causing this many arguments :sob:

Cuz the gambling addicts hate us having fun

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The message above has it quoted, you responded to it earlier

Difference, singular.

Also, are you seriously trying to tell me that the free stats from a scroll and the free stats from treasure charts ARENT similar?
This entire argument is dumb. This isn’t gonna prove anything, and it’s more productive for you to just leave and hope this suggestion dies

no, but one similarity existing doesn’t mean there’s no dissimilarity

i mean yea ur right cause its already been made clear that we’re not getting essences for the current modifiers

I never said there wasn’t any dissimilarity, I’m saying they are similar.

There are no objective quotas for similarity, so this argument can’t be productive

Maybe, but I swear I will complain about this until it’s actually changed. Increasing modifier rates is a band aid fix, not the end all solution

Also source?

Bro he dipped the moment I mentioned a source :sob:

Found it