A question about elemental curses

[OnionCream]

yup

[wmdrayal]

@BlueFighter15

So I suppose we all know how sea curses work

we dont because the lore is fragmented as hell

@BlueFighter15

They’re the purest form of magic energy,

true

@BlueFighter15

only one elemental curse exists for each magic

true

@BlueFighter15

and when you absorb them, your body becomes pure magic

true, seems like you can turn it on and off cause Morden stills eat and such

@BlueFighter15

However, that means you can’t be submerged in seawater because its magic radiation will clash with your own, causing you to blow up and die.

yeah and also depending on how strong you are

someone as powerful as cursebeard would blow up if more than half of his body is submerged iirc

@BlueFighter15

But here is the issue: ships are supposed to go in water. And we clearly see them doing so. But if they’re made with a sea curse, that means they are the sea curse, which also means they are extensions of Wotan’s body.

@BlueFighter15

That means that any ship Wotan makes using his curse, no matter how well it’s made, is doomed to explode as soon as it touches seawater. This also means that Wotan should blow up as well, since it’s an extension of his body that is in the sea.

nope, the previous metal curse user created a whole a$$ island once and its still kicking ( until Archeron commited die )

[BlueFighter15]

I think it only ever said he made the Arena, I don’t think it ever touched the sea
Then again, Vetex does have the consistency of scrambled eggs with ham, cheese and onions

[beefybuffoon]

@Mortal

Wotan can create beam which would damage us, but his ships won’t damage us on contact if we touch them. How?

because those arent attacks, they’re normal objects

@Mortal

So curse’s damage is physical, while magic’s damage is magical lol?

magics and curses are both physical. (if they’re not energy based) its just that a curse user can permanently create their element while a mage cannot.

@OnionCream

seriously speaking a curse user could probably also imbue their created elements with magic energy to replicate a magic attack

yes, thats how all magic energy based attacks work

@Mortal

They can’t… it is immense pain for curse user to use his magic energy.

elemental curses are magic energy

@OnionCream

immense pain for the curse user to use their minds, not the curse’s energy

that only happens when they use any other magic than their element

@Mortal

Magic energy and curse’s energy are different things.

no, currently there is only magic and spirit energy

[Mortal]

Give me source of every statement you made.

[beefybuffoon]

@Mortal

Give me source of every statement you made.

@beefybuffoon

because those arent attacks, they’re normal objects

@beefybuffoon

magics and curses are both physical.

@beefybuffoon

its just that a curse user can permanently create their element while a mage cannot.

shura’s swamp water and

@beefybuffoon

yes, thats how all magic energy based attacks work

@Vetex

Pain inflicted from magic is your own body’s magic energy conflicting with outside magic energy, since magic energy when used in attacks behaves differently to the “natural” magic energy in the air, sea, and nature. This is why magics like water and wind are harmful.

@beefybuffoon

elemental curses are magic energy

@beefybuffoon

that only happens when they use any other magic than their element

@Vetex

because not all magic energy is the same, if you were a water magic user and absorbed the fire curse for example, it would be as if water magic is clashing with fire magic because your entire body IS fire magic, and it would cause you immense pain to try to use water magic afterwards. It works the same way with other magic types, because the curse is a specific type of energy it will reject any other type of energy

@beefybuffoon

@Mortal

Magic energy and curse’s energy are different things.

no, currently there is only magic and spirit energy

[alive_d]

Buffoon showing why he is called beefy

[Mortal]

Shura is not curse user nor water magic user (he is acid user).

How are they physical, if damage is inflicted by conflict of energies?

I accept everything else (even despite I don’t understand how curse users can divide their moves into harmful and peaceful ones).

[beefybuffoon]

@Mortal

How are they physical, if damage is inflicted by conflict of energies?

why would it being charged with magic energy make it not physical?

[Mortal]

Its like saying that food poisoning is a physical attack. Hit by train is physical, but food poisoning is more… chemical?

[beefybuffoon]

chemicals are physical

[Mortal]

But damage comes not from them breaking your bones or causing pressure from falliing in the water from high cliff, but from chemical reactions.

[beefybuffoon]

which are physical

[Mortal]

Nope. Yes, they exist physically, but they are not included into term of physical damage.

Otherwise sunburn is a physical attack too, lol.

[beefybuffoon]

chemicals need physical contact to react with stuff and sunburn is from radiation

[Mortal]

@beefybuffoon

chemicals need physical contact to react with stuff

Not included into term of physical damage.

@beefybuffoon

and sunburn is from radiation

Photons, eons and such things are all physical, just very small. Everything is physical in your point.

[beefybuffoon]

@Mortal

Not included into term of physical damage.

how so? idk

@Mortal

Photons, eons and such things are all physical, just very small. Everything is physical in your point.

guess so

[Mortal]

@beefybuffoon

how so?

Basic difference between physical damage and magical damage. But I guess in AO it is all messed up.

[beefybuffoon]

@Mortal

Basic difference between physical damage and magical damage. But I guess in AO it is all messed up.

why would chemicals matter? the magic is entirely doing magical damage

[Mortal]

@beefybuffoon

the magic is entirely doing magical damage

But you said that it does physical damage?)))