For savants, Explosion * Sailorfist * Dense Bronze Halberd = 2.8x size, guys is 50% better than base magics a lot for lost magics? And that’s not even considering how much patrimony can boost your size.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think with earth and eagle you can get the same size with better bleed synergy? I dunno how the explosion synergy works so maybe thats better.
This is wrong.
This is also wrong.
time to search aether damage mult in tester chat
Hint: It’s not there
Hi, is it where you can find milk?
mathhhhhhhhhhhhh 
what about flare, didnt vetex wipe yall with thermo-flare once?
Yeah but we wouldn’t be able to determine stats off that cuz we don’t know how much Power, I tried. I know the stats tho cuz I got insider knowledge (never telling anyone)
I’m curious now, if you were one of the ones to fight him with it, what was it like?
Wasn’t there from the fight I just saw clips of it
has enough time passed to where the public is allowed to see those clips? It’s not like we haven’t seen flare before and a lot of people would love seeing that
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YEAH!!! I would love to see Thermo Flare. It could help get the public hyped for lost magics, too.
i personally think that they will be more either “gimmicky” ( healing, wave which drains energy, gravity which might apply slowness or immense knockback ) or have better status effect ( maybe sun has relatively similar stats to fire but stronger dot for example )
the ancient magics will most likely be direct upgrades tho
Perhaps they will have better/more unique synergies, so you use base magics as your well, base, and get the gimmicks from those synergies
I kinda hope aether isn’t too slow because it’d suck if light’s lost relative was actually slower than the base magic 
May I remind you how fast calvus’ attacks are in phase 2?
…they’re kinda not that fast I’m ngl
(Or maybe it’s just the ironleg that’s throwing me off)
Probably only because it’s imbued with Apocalypse Bringer.