AI ""art"" discussion

skyhall’s icon is good phantasia (my clan)

That’s AI generated, isn’t it?

yes… it’s ai generated… SO, WHO CARES

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yeah that’s how i act irl

Come on now, at least try to learn an actual paint program and make your own logo. I absolutely suck at digital art nonsense (because I only have a mouse and a monitor), but even something like MSPaint/Paint 3D is usable enough.

If you can, install a program with a layering feature. It. Is. GOOD.

Anyway I said this in another thread, but the only issue I have is how it’d make more thematic sense for Spirit to be the blue one, and for Weapons to stay yellow.

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Rest in peace potential Blue→Purple→Red→Yellow gradient, you will not be missed.

was it a bug?
im confuseed

“im the sigma chad and you are the crying wojak” ahhh video

I’ve never figured out how to use layers
how do you?

hi a little late to the party here but i just wanted to let you know that I do not acknowledge you as a living breathing person and I wholeheartedly believe that you are beneath me.

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I always find these arguments absolutely stupid.
If someone doesn’t want to learn to draw, or don’t have the time, what’s the issue of using generative intelligence to create a damn logo on a Roblox game? He’s not stealing from anyone, not hurting anyone or doing anything negative.
It’s the same argument is saying someone shouldn’t use a calculator because they should just learn math, or that it’s offensive to mathematicians.

To be clear, that doesn’t mean I’m for exclusively AI generated art, I personally often don’t like the style of it, and it doesn’t have the same imagination of good human artists.

But again, this is a logo there is literally no issue with them using it, if anything, it’s a good thing, it lets them create something from their ideas.

I’m really confused of how we went from “oh no, people using AI art to steal from artists or claim false credits in competitions that matter is bad” too “oh no, using AI to create what you can’t for a Roblox game logo is a federal crime!”. You seriously need to understand the difference.

This personally just feels like one of those hate trains, people have had bad experience with the abuse of those generative AIs, and now just hate on anything ever so slightly associated to it, with absolutely no reasoning. And of course, you’re never allowed to disagree, because if you do, that means you hate artists and are for exclusively AI created art.

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i usually try and stay out of these discussions, but i did notice a few things you said that i thought could be commented on

generative image ai’s like this are built upon large datasets of artworks, many of which the artist who created them did not consent for them to be used. by engaging with and giving traffic to the image generator, it does encourage this behaviour of whichever company created it

they did not create anything


personally, if i were in a clan where the leader used an ai generated picture for the logo instead of making or having someone else make one themself, i would leave for the lack of care it shows

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But that’s on the making of the tool itself, not it’s user. Many, many, many of modern tools we all use today have horrible histories behind them, but it’s not a reason to not use them. Saying it encourages the company to continue is also blatantly false, they’d continue anyways because there’s always profit to be made in these kind of technologies.

I disagree, that’s like saying, when you cut bread, you didn’t cut the bread, the knife did.
Which sure, to a literal sense, that’s what happened, but you’re the one who used the tool.

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yeah this meat grinder was made to grind up people but it doesn’t anymore
vs
yeah this meat grinder was made to grind up people and it still does

the knife cut it

there’s always a profit to be made… because people are using their program. that’s how things make money
and there’s more to it than just money too, people using it shows a level of interest which tells the company to keep doing what they’re doing

this is not an adequate equivalence at all. the knife is a tool to help you to cut, the generative ai is a tool to do all the cutting for you; you are comparing a knife to the automated band slicers used in bread factories
the only input you have is giving a description of what you want, similar to commissioning art from an artist, but even less involved. an artist you’ve commissioned can give you updates and ask about anything they want more details on, but a generative ai model will not include you in the process like this. no right person in their mind would say that commissioning an artist counts as you creating the artwork, so neither can having an ai do it for you

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i find this arguement stupid
everything AI makes is generally unique unless you ask it to recreate smth
and if it’s different from the source content then it’s basically just inspired from other content. people saying that it isnt fair that AI can train on other art pieces are also stupid because that’s how alot of real artists get better

its a tool, it’s definetly less effort than making it yourself but technically an artist didn’t paint a painting their paint brush did. the only difference is the effort you put into using the tool

this is crazy work cuz ik people with AI generate clan logos who still put in alot of work into their clan. saying AI artwork means you don’t care is like saying reading instructions mean you don’t know what your doing

ai is a melting pot of stolen works. cant be inspired because they’re computers

id argue that there is another difference, the element of real human creativity

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its inspiration based off of definition, sure computers don’t have sapience (or do they??? no a conspiracy theory i swear) but they most certainly can create something based off others works. this argument doesn’t make any sense and is the equivalent of saying something like Nazi’s cant be happy cuz their evil.

there is still human creativity going into a prompt, the majority of the time people who use AI don’t know how convey their ideas onto paper

i guess in the prompt there is, but not in the images themselves

im just gonna say this before i get into an argument that lasts for 17 years: my issue with ai is mainly a moral one, as ai companies blatantly disregard intellectual property and steal from artists boom argument over