So your ENTIRE argument stems from the fact that the knight is IMPLIED (not confirmed) to be related to the Holidays, correct?
Now while that may be true, and if that’s the SOLE reason why you think the knight has ice/snow powers, then riddle me this.
WHY did Toby NOT give the knight ANY elemental connections to ice at all???
Noelle’s iceshock ability deals ICE damage to enemies, which obviously makes sense to her character
But the knight, deals DARK and STAR damage. As I’ve stated before.
We know that the knight has these elemental affinities due to the shadow mantle.
if the knight did ICE damage, then the shadow mantle wouldn’t really work against the knight and would completely defeat the purpose of its usefulness against said enemy.
Even if it’s IMPLIED that the knight is RELATED to the holidays, that doesn’t mean the knight themselves just suddenly gets ice powers, that is the most confusing and bullshit logic I’ve seen in a long time and quite frankly none of your other arguments convince me otherwise either.
Ik there are tons of implications but don’t they quite literally make use of dark magic as part of their setup? While they do prob have ice, that is more likely to be their secondary/unprefered
Hmm, Darkness/Slash/Gravity Mage might be a fun build
a shadow conj would best fit the knight right now, and ill even say that wooden club should be one of their weapons bc baseball bat. as a lost magic they would probably use equinox/darkness
im sorry but while the knight is a holiday that we know very well and ice magic is more fitting thematically there is no gameplay or visuals of them using ice magic, only making dark slashes with black swords. their entire aesthetic is literally a shadow of someone that used to be
ice magic is not a recognizable trait of the roaring knight, up to the end of ch. 4. they are shown to wield the black knife and are entirely coated in shadow, so it makes sense that they’re lumped in with those edgy pricks
I now see why people do not like to argue with you
the color of the attacks ig? and the shadow mantal quite litterally clarifying how it protects you best against dark/star attacks which helps against the night
the knight is 100% using dark and star attacks don’t deny that cause “it looks like this instead”
the black shard from the black knife remains as a black shard unchanged in the physical world if you do “beat” the knight, even if she is the knight it should not be for that reason
the knight cannot be carol holiday, because it wouldn’t make sense. the knight does not hold their weapon like a katana, they hold it like a baseball bat. additionally, carol could not have opened the dark fountains at the church, the timeline doesnt make any sense
it doesn’t make thematic sense either. carol’s character as an abusive/controlling mother has been already explored in chapter 2, and to add her being the roaring knight on top of that?
that being said, the closest parallel to the black knife in ao may be a katana
Not that this is related but wouldn’t it be super cool/fucked up if on the weird route we eventually convince Noelle to actually kill her mom or something
I don’t think in either case they’d be holding it right, they’re both meant to be two-handed.
Carol’s character arc as The Knight doesn’t have to be about her being mean to Noelle. I believe the reason that The Knight is all about the shelter is because it’s where Dess went missing, her own daughter who she’d want to find desperately.
And how could a teen with a baseball bat hold up Undyne?
And if Dess was supposedly cold, scared, and alone, trapped somewhere, how could they also be in the Dark World slashing Tenna’s arms off?
She returns home from no specific location, directly after when we know the dark fountain was open. It’s not like she needed time to take her villainous costume off.
the problem is that when we go into the church the knight is already there. noelle and carol were talking when we went into the church, and the knight is further in than we are.
yeah but the knight can open the door… if dess was in there it wouldn’t exactly be a problem to get her out
how did a teen with a baseball bat beat the shit out of us? not only that, but a small piece of the black knife is the strongest weapon in the game, capable of flat out killing titans. who knows what the full thing can do.
you presubscribe to the idea that dess is lost here too
