AOE and Agility Demons, PVP is less skill than before

Someone that is skilled at the game should not need 160+ AOE to win. However because of the bloated stats, even people that do not main pvp barely have to try and are able to stand on the same playing field

Hitting anywhere on the arena without caring about stuff such as endlag, parrying, movement should not be a winning strategy. This is just lowkey 1.12 again now

no just no XD bro SKILLED like were talking top 10% of pvp players they have no trouble working these aoe build TRUST me if your struggling against aoe builds, 100% of the time its ur fault even if its cuz ur pc cant take it, upgrade ur pc, anybody can make money, and its ur fault if you cant unless special circumstances, take acountablity.

200 agility is going to be a repeat of rogue lineage, let me summarize:
ā€œare you vamp? no? inherent disadvantage against everyone else, lose instantlyā€
canā€™t catch anyone who has 200 agility unless youā€™re 200 agility yourself. canā€™t run from anyone who has 200 agility unless youā€™re 200 agility yourself. everyone else is going agi? you have to go agi. youā€™re going agi? everyone else has to go agi.

i think im getting brain damage from the absolute bullshit amount of running in pvp now but i donā€™t know what vetex was thinking with this one

i dunno man just think stats are way too damn high right now. things can get extremely out of control way too fast. i made a whole damn post about it and after thinking it over ive just come to the conclusion that pvp just does not need a lot of skill in this update anymore because of how high and how effective stats get at our level.

this is coming from a person who made an aoe demon build and my explosion conj is hitting 40% of munera with greataxe attacks and that shit is NOT okay. it really shouldnt be possible for me to easily run 200 agility 180 atk size and still have 400 def and 90 power, with just 1 insanity and 1 drawback. i keep hearing that my build is balanced when ā€œerm actually ur atk speed is low so the opponent can just block parry dodgeā€ but thereā€™s a point where it doesnt matter anymore and with these new meta builds we have officially reached that point

ive just taken to pvping without gear with friends because of how much stats make pvp that much easier. im not really sure how to fix it im illiterate and cant do math but its just wacky how much we can get rn

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NONE of the competitive players use this strategy thoe?? like bro all the good players are actually really fun to watch, and are pretty focused while playing the game, im telling u aoe is more flashy than it is useful

now THIS build is atrocious, still can be countered but dam wouldnā€™t be ez if it was in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing.

he haves a point tho, especially agility, anyone with 200 agility will win against anyone that (assuming) are both on the same skill or close, use common sense and doesnt have as much agility as that guy, u cant catch them, u cant escape them, u cant do nothing

Atk size can also get extremely huge with a lot of hp and power

Man do you even PVP? Glads, tourneys, clan wars? You even in the discord. Iā€™ve been doing PVP for a FUCKED amount of time in this game and Iā€™ve seen how itā€™s slowly becoming pure BS. I can list a shitttooonnn of top players that used normal defense/power focused builds

i always wanted to make a atk speed build

g make a clip of you beating an actual competent player with that build I DARE you u will not win.

:fishing_pole_and_fish:??

Feel free to make a vid about u pvping, would love to see if u got the experience to back up ur absolute nonsenseā€¦

i think u forgot that ATK size in general doenst req skill, while ya maybe a extremely good pvper will win against that, most common people and even good pvper will have trouble, even more when the size isnt accurate, or maybe ur just baiting people

hold up budy, ik what im doing

bro if u have alteast 100+ agility u can beat a 200+ player iā€™ve done it, if they start running and are super far away they canā€™t hit u either, pvp is way more than just being fast its how u control the space. agility is great but someone with enough just enough atk spd and agility can merk a 200 agility player thats just running around.

no shit sherlock, dude never fought a mage with surge nor he actually fought anyone with 200+ agility, i highly doubt u even have any pvp experience

That RIGHT back to the issue, THIS SHOULD NOT be a winning strategy. This shows how fucking bloated the stats are, builds SHOULD work if they are balanced and not running only a certain substat

typo i meant 100+