AO's stat progression needs a Rework

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Classes and abilities and tiers in AO tend to be weird to understand at first. So I thought of this way to make it simpler and more lore accurate.

1.AWAKENING / CLASS CHANGES
As Vetex said, awakenings dont exist in the lore where anyone would be able to learn more magic and abilities given time and experience. It also doesnt make sense how a mage cant spend some stat points to learn weapons and viceversa.

The awakening part of the story can stay as an added requirement to awaken, however, awakenings should be stat based. If I spend 125pts in both magic and weapons, I gain the ability to imbue like a Conj. And in the future, if I can use a lost or ancient magic, then I would only need 125pts in weapons to be able to imbue into them.

No class locking. If I’m a berserker and I want to learn a lost magic, then I’d need like 600 stat points for it (which in the process would give me 2nd & 3rd magic making me a Warlock and potentially a Mage) but its still possible.

2.ATTACK TIER CHANGES
Tiers are a mess, savants can get to the same tier as mages because the game forcefully decreases the stat amount per tier. This is inelegant design, and its the same thing as tying tiers to your overall level but much weirder.

Your dmg/size for all abilities should be tied to your level cap, not stat investment, all abilities should have the same size no matter the build, and specking into a class would just let you unlock more abilities for it (like class specific imbues, 2nd magics & more).

TLDR:Essentially make Awakenings sort of like skills you learn once you reach a certain level in that stat (locked until you reach said part in the story), and tie attack tiers to your level cap.

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Numbers are not exact and would change depending on the balance

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This totally won’t make balancing 10x more annoying

probably easier honestly, if an ability’s too strong then you increase the requirement or you nerf it in some way that from now on affects all builds the same

You cooked but it turned out to be ash

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in true 14 yo fashion does not provide any explanation using zoomer dialect

are builds even real anymore this feels like savant propaganda

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im a savant but i dont get this idea + i partially dont like it

i am a savant. this feels kinda like trying to go back to AA (in a way at least) where depending where you put your stats you get something.

i feel like this would work for world of magic but it feels like it doesnt fit AO.

I like the idea

but reasonably does not make sense for the game. Would be really fun though the issue may arrise with weapons and vit if this were to get added sounds fun

I mean it should be obvious why it sucks so badly that I wouldn’t be bothered to explain since other people do that job for me.

to be real here I wish we could go back to AA, I want my character to use the coolest magic weapons and fighting style at the same time, I wish builds were just combinations of those and gear stats, I dont like being locked to 1 playstyle or a weaker version of all of them.

And this is the way our player is in the lore, so idk why vetex didnt just make the game around that

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it was because players would complain IIRC

complain abt what

savant is actually really weaker. it works like how you explained it pretty much (other than being locked to maximums). it will probably just never get enough points for ancient (unless investing 50% into magic allows it)

Imagine being able to not awaken then you would have what you said just without the awakening buffs no second access or imbue

oh i think it was build diversity or something. everyone was just going to be savants like AA i think

i hate fighting styles, i wouldn’t want to be forced to use one lest i have an “incomplete” build, i’d much rather just put more into magic

but everyone would have different combinations of magics, spells/abilities and gear stats

unless you were just allowed to not put any points in strength

look, what the fuck ever, I just want to fight like theos does in this animation

you could, but you would be an incomplete build and wouldn’t get anything to compensate

i mean access to better skills in some other place. Honestly i would be fine with this change or a change that specifically only doesn’t lock your build (awakening might be an issue if it is only being unlocked)

also fightning like theos sounds funny (or your a mage with a gun in your side pocket as well as a knife and 4 more guns)