this problem will be fixed when the full movesets are added
Which wonât be for a long time
Why me?
What yâall think of this logistic growth scaling, the max and scaling can be changed for different stats.
Shouldnât these be 2 sides two sides of the same coin? They are both meant to be catalyst, why are petrified and frozen so different in the buffs they give to the stuff applying them?
Also why are the debuffs on heat statuses against cold magics so much higher than the debuffs of cold statuses on heat magics?
Whats with snow only having 10% on its freeze synergies?
Also, would be cool to give explosion a size reduction underwater instead of getting deleted. It would also get a slight dmg buff instead. Water would get size and speed underwater instead.
Personally, I feel like water should have a size closer to explosion and speed higher than an explosion, but lower dmg. Boom boom more dmg than a fast river. Kinda just wanna have explosion and water be similar except in dmg and speed. Water 0.9 dmg, 1.1 speed, 1.25 size. Explosion .925 dmg, .8 speed, 1.3 size. Is this based on any balance reason besides making explosion and water similar and cooler? No.
What if since imbued synergies are half as effective, why not have stun imbuements have a 20s cd instead of 10s, or just lower their time. Stun imbuements seem to be the only thing people ever use stuns on unless someone falls into the water. This just for consistency, stun duration still an L.
Also, since youâre giving up any potential of synergies with double status, I still believe non-dot double statuses should have a dmg buff instead of 20s status. Or Make it stack double status and give the non-dot statuses self synergy and make stacked statuses give double synergy like it will with light.
Prob not gonna change this stance until stacking water is viable. Iâm giving up bleed synergy or any other synergy by using sunken sword or sailor imbued with water. The buff also wouldnât affect anything really besides those double status builds.
This admittedly only affects water since its the only status on things besides magic that isnât a DOT.
Also, give dot more dmg or lower hp regen
I hope this is not concern howeverâŚ
The combinations of the buffs to fighting styles and conjurer imbuement and the nerf of warlordâs imbuement damage affinity is a bit worrisome to me.
At the moment, with bleed synergy, there are a fair amount of magics that have similar imbuement damage to warlord (Tested water imbuement damage in comparison to basic/iron leg). With these changes, conjurerâs imbuement will get a 0.1 buff and fighting styles are getting a buff of at least 0.1 as well. However, Warlordâs imbuement is also getting nerfed from 2.5 to 1.5.
(Please do also note that fighting style imbued weapons do not proc synergies)
Please correct me if I am wrong as I am just judging from what I can see, but wonât the imbuement nerf and fighting style buff just balance eachother out while conjurer is getting a unhindered boost? Wonât conjurer do a noticable amount more damage than Warlord as a result? I donât know the math.
They donât? What fighting style?
I mean when imbued on a weapon they donât proc. For example, bleed synergy on iron leg does not carry over on weapons. The weapon attacks donât get increased damage from synergy. This goes for every fighting style rn
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This one is just a known bug with bleed synergies and weapons not working. Should be fixed next update to make bleed synergies auto apply. Happens on conjurer too
Oh, alrighty then. Do you have any insight on the other stuff I mentioned btw?
Aside from meter fighting styles having a low meter Iâm pretty sure fighting styles will give more dmg overall, for example sailor 70%+ will give 1.075x dmg multiplier and 1.2x size, water would give 1.025x dmg multiplier and 1.2x size
Although sand imbuement and iron leg imbuement would give the exact same stats, and I truly mean the exact same.
Hm, when the â+â symbol appears next to the damage number, it means a synergy was triggered right?
Yes
Hmm looking more at it, I donât think dmg is the problem, more of it being size. Where as magic can only go down to 1.0 size and as such never reduce size on imbuement, fighting styles go down to .8 giving a 20% size reduction.
I tested out weapon imbuement with crystal and it seems to work, the synergy also seemed to proc for sand conjurers and water conjurers. It canât have been another synergy as the opponents hit had no effects on them. I am guessing that bleed synergy just works for imbued weapons that usng magics that clear bleed for now.
Going by that logic, it is still strange that it doesnât work for warlord imbuements then as fighting styles like iron leg or basic combat donât clear effects.
Aside from bleed synergy, it also doesnât proc Thermoâs burn synergy either so I think it is a seperate issue from the bleed bug.
I was aware of water conjurer bleed synergy functioning, not of others though. I know ice bleed synergy does not functions. I do believe synergies not working is mainly a bug.
Ah, well weâll just wait and see. Hopefully it is just synergies not working. Though thermo fistâs burn synergy not working on imbue isnât a bleed synergy problem so hope it will be ok too.
Thank you for your answers
To go along with this, since imbuement synergies are halved, if water gave 10% self synergy. Double soaked would be 10% instead of 20% which would make it marginally better than bleed synergy but still worse than a dot stack with self synergy. Also would help water be more viable as a standalone magic.
This would also btw make a bleed weapon imbued with water or sailor give 10% due to bleed + soaked and a sunken sword imbued with water give 10% from double soaked. It would just allow more build variety and weaken the loss of a stun + dmg synergy.
Heats were made viable with sailor, why not water sailor.
Also this boost other non dot statuses to not be useful without a synergy. Also buff dot magic impact dmg with this
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