I don’t think a solid set of rules could consistently be applied when stuff like status effects, synergies, and hazards exist
Indeed, dmg size and speed enchantments, shapes, and affinities could be made consistent though.
Dmg:dot:speed:size ratio for affinities is somewhat
1:5:2:4
For shapes and enchants it’s
1:0:1.5:2
And then there’s tiers who just give size only
Some smaller magics shouldn’t get the -0.1 debuff imo, I feel like they really need help with size so shrinking skills doesn’t really make sense. Make magics like fire, light, and plasma (who all have at most 1.1 size) not get the nerf?
Of course magics like sand and crystal who have 1.15 should be affected but magics with 1.1 I feel shouldn’t get it
But they are supposed toe be sacrificing their size for other stats. Not applying it to all magics would mean water would give the same size as fire
There’s always halving it like speed. Both solutions can be tested to see which is preferred. For warlock, larger magics already have increased damage and size so most reduce the size for even more damage. Weapons lack that customisation and already have big aoe
This is just a problem with that stupid size bar and base size on techniques being too low to be worth focusing on. Weird that we don’t have a bar to trade speed for dmg, but I would hate that just like I hate the size bar.
Considering we now have shapes, I think we could go without a size and speed tradeoff bar. Dmg doesn’t need any more multipliers.
Side note: weird that mutli blast doesn’t reduce projectile speed like it does dmg and size.
We setup a server for people to give feedback on the balance of the game. Only join if you plan to give organized feedback about the game. The point of the server is to allow much better communication from the community.
Only suggest balance changes/additions.
Hold on.
So is this topic going to be shut down because of the server or will it still exist?
I thought you mean 2 DOTS
when do y’all think we’ll be ready to start discussing spirit weapons ![]()
I’m really curious about how spirit weapons gonna play out
2-3 months
I just want some confirmation that Vetex has any ideas about them past “use hp to deal damage” (which isn’t even a great idea to begin with imo)
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Aren’t embodiment size changes all 25%, not 15%?
Or is this image just outdated?

I thought only the nerfs were unchanged didn’t know the size buffs were too.
Not really needed tbh but it should be consistent with the mage changes.
wait if savants can imbue FS and Magic which would have more effect (because iron leg is like metal it would do 1.1 right? but then magics like fire would 9.256 or something)
So according to the new warlock imbue formula, will ash-imbued thermo have a size affinity of 1.15 instead of 1.25? @Fluect
imagine crystal iron leg on a light weapon
Do the embodiments have any visual changes?
Yeah the animal you choose will show up around you when you attack