Damn thermo warlord got gutted
FINALLY
if you arent even an ice mage you shouldnt be talking smh
plus giving ice a self synergy would buff every build that uses ice, and 1% would do absolutely nothing so just dont add it
simply wait until bleed synergy is fixed idk
Bruh why. My speed is goneā¦
Iām just saying bc imagine u were an ice mage, plus Iāve been using ice magic almost my entire playthrough thinking freezing buffs its damage, and the hint about freezing doesnāt help at all so either freezing increases iceās damage or change the wording of the hint.
Tho every build that includes ice uses it with another form of magic that synergizes with it (or bleed) so if the buff isnāt as good as the synergies I donāt see how it buffs other ice builds. But it does buff ice when itās alone.
Iād like to add to this discussion the fact that i am a mage whose main use for ice magic is to buff the damage of my water magic. Thats all, have fun arguing.
āit is easy to convince a smart person but impossible to convince a stupid personā
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i donāt think ice is that bad as a solo magic anymore, the damage buff it got is pretty good
Plus, ice is more of a complementry magic. I get if you want it to be better, but the thing is its supposed to be better with another magic/effect. I know fireās lack of size or speed is made up for the fact that it is a catalyst for petrified (Ash and Explosion)
That still doesnt change my mind that it was a bad idea to remove the burning DOT, but thats for a diff discussion
Iāve said before that ice was the worst solo magic in the game (outclassed by literally everything)
Would u say it still is? Bc the only thing that might be worse than it or equivalent to it is water magic (when its alone). Possibly wind as well bc npcās canāt drown.
Ye hence why Iām not gonna try further proving my point bc Iāve said everything that needed to be said.
If u donāt wanna understand then I canāt make u understand. And denying the truth is what stupid ppl do.
Iād like to come back to this. U said that it would basically do nothing meaning it doesnāt really buff ice but it makes the hint for freezing accurate so it should be added or maybe a different number if 1% means the damage doesnāt change. U saying āit should not be addedā and never talking abt how the wording of the hint should change was a stupid take on ur behalf ngl bc u kept dragging down my ideas and not promoting a single one even tho the problem Iām addressing is an issue.
At the very least the āhintā for freezing should be changed bc it basically calls ice not a cold-based magic which makes no sense. If u donāt want this then I have nothing more to say to u.
Imo it should just depend on temperature. AO balancing is too filled with ad hoc balance changes that make everything so complicated. It would make more sense to just say that all cold magics including ice do more damage to targets who are cold, and all hot magics do more damage to targets who are hot
so this entire argument was because of wording in an ingame hint 
yea im not even gonna bother anymore
Na, the hint just made me realize that Freezing doesnāt actually increase the damage of ice which doesnāt make sense logically and ice could use that buff bc of how it works alone.
Plus the hint being wrong should be fixed and not ignored bc some casual players wonāt look at the wiki and just use the game as a source, and the hint basically lies to ur face, which I donāt understand why no one talks abt this.
I said āwasā
It got buffed pretty nicely recently
no one even reads hints 
logically being cold wont make you be more susceptible to cold tho
you in fact get cold slower the more cold you are
also this
0.925x ā 0.95x right
Yes
Ice WAS the worst solo magic though
If youāre already cold, then exposure to more cold is more dangerous than if youāre not already cold. Thatās why prolonged exposure to cold temperatures causes hypothermia, and not just a big temporary dip in temperature