Arcane Odyssey v1.13 Balancing Changes WIP

[fortifir]

you know, it would be nice if guns could make you face wherever you are firing. since the bullets come from the gun and not you.

[WarmWater]

ok so here’s my suggestions:
explosion spell “pillar” option: make it not have infinite vertical hitboxes I swear its the exact fucking same as wom

magma magic size: 6.4 → 0.01

[ImaLettuce]

I agree it needs a limited vertical hitbox

when we were fighting those things hit undeservingly so i got away with so many bad punishes

[Crusade]

@ThatOneGuy

[WarmWater]

how the FUCK do you HIT A SELF EXPLOSION AGAINST MY CHARGED T JUMP + MAGIC JUMP

[Divanochi]

Weapons used to do this, but it was removed since shift lock was added

[jaez]

maybe make it so health regen changes only apply in combat

[ThatOneGuy]

WELCOME TO OUR CLUB

[smear]

still too much apparently

[Fluect]

@shootZ234

So if you’re not fighting back and just running, the dash changes wouldn’t really apply? Sorry if I’m not understanding this correctly but this just sounds like it’ll make it much more of a pain in the ass to deal with people that pick fights and then run away as soon their health gets low.

More hits = less stale. If you’re just running your dash distance wil decrease a lot. Open to alternatives but I think this is the best solution.

[Fluect]

@Crusade

How do status buffs apply? Is it additive or multiplicative? Do they stack or is the best one used?

Multiplicative. When they stack, any multipliers equal to or lower than the highest are 50% effective.

E.g. Magma → Corroding + Bleeding would be 1.2×1.1 = 1.32x dmg

[Fluect]

@Borg

Every patch note where glass’ state isn’t talked about makes my hopes of it ever receiving a buff grow dimmer and dimmer. Especially since apparently, glass changes were already discussed in previous versions of the doc so I’m not sure if they will go back to review them or not.

Nothing is agreed upon yet but something may be added. Likely gonna do something about the DoT (since it’s terrible on conjurer and just worse than Acid) and/or change some of the base stats.

@Kitty_Cushion
Sorry for not replying until now, schoolwork + taking a break from forums.

@Kitty_Cushion

Before I continue discussion, I’m curious as to your thoughts on this potential solution to the problem.
It’d kill off the power synergy for status’ and rightfully move them to the reworked intensity for folks who want to do that, while ensuring that more powerful attacks inflict stronger DoT’s.
I’m thinking ahead for attacks that are stronger than what we currently have, ultimate move or not.

Discussed this a little bit. The current idea is that power doesn’t need to affect it especially when combined with the Intensity changes (which I dislike but I can’t single-handedly dictate everything, plus it has its benefits). As the amount of Power people use is rapidly starting to lower, it wouldn’t be incredibly drastic.

Also brought up the topic of DoT scaling again. I think that if absolutely needed you could make DoTs more potent on ult arts. Not sure if its necessary though, especially if DoT magics like Poison are no longer held back by their disgustingly low damage multiplier.

[Wyqkrn]

I must admit: my main file is a pure Magma Mage - not because of meta, but because 1. WOM was magic-focused and 2. Magma is cool as shit.
Before I got Pulsar I was a pretty chill person who was shit at playing Mage, because my main method of damage was to dash into an enemy, do a self-explosion, and get the fuck out. I did not use blasts all that often, because Magma is slow as shit.

Then I got pulsar, and it’s the only spell I use now.

My first reaction when reading the pulsar nerfs were “OMG NOOOO” (having never fought against a fellow pulsar-spamming shithead) NOT MY BABY

Today, on my Plasma Conjurer file, I fought against a pure Fire Mage with 980k fame at Whitesummit.
I was fucking murdered, because any time they cast Pulsar I lost around 500 health, because I had zero clue where they were, when they would cast it, and had no way to punish it.
To anybody who suffered because of my pulsar spam, I am sorry.

NERF IT INTO THE GROUND WHAT THE FUCK -50% AOE??? NAH MORE LIKE -80% WHY
4S ENDLAG, 25S COOLDOWN? NOT ENOUGHT, GO EVEN FURTHER

[Wyqkrn]

I think the single best way for Pulsar to become a legitimately balanced spell would be to give it a ~2s “Charge up time” after casting where it grows from small to large and starts to accelerate, before starting pulsing, giving ample time for any unsuspecting players to react by dodging or clashing.

[Borg]

@Fluect

Nothing is agreed upon yet but something may be added. Likely gonna do something about the DoT (since it’s terrible on conjurer and just worse than Acid) and/or change some of the base stats.

That is definitely some REALLY good news!!
Glass as a magic definitely needs some love and since Glass Conjurer is basically 100% nerfing yourself… XD

Super happy to know at least some change is being considered!

[Crusade]

Interesting take, most balancing is being done without modifying the spell itself too drastically.
Although 2 seconds might be too long, maybe 1 or 1.5 is better especially since it’ll initially start small going off of what you said.

[WarmWater]

this is actually a great idea, also it makes it sound much cooler, so yeah this is the best option

[Several_people]

“even without synergies”

Fair, but you’re withholding the information that the synergies in question are actually antisynergies.

It’s literally just a stat stick with 0 special effects and exclusively negative interactions.

also @Level ain’t no WAY you think having a grand total of 3 interactions, each negative, is a good identity for a magic to have. The identity is just “yeah this magic is boring as shit and fucking sucks, but it has some decent raw stats so I guess I’ll use it”

no way bro no fucking way

[Crim]

Im surprised no one made a Lightning Annihilation spell with pulsar

But i feel like it should have that startup like before

[sock]

@Several_people

and exclusively negative interactions

your own magics don’t have negative synergies with each other