Armor piercing hate thread

Are you struggling with killing people? Just use more power!

they’ve been trying desperately to gut defense but its simply too powerful

I HATE armor piercing SO MUCH we got like 20 new armor sets empires update, but it feels like 3 because every time you see this stupid broken armor icon you instantly evaluate at a glance “wow, useless armor set right here, what a disappointing drop” and it’s so worthless it invalidates like 70% of solid armor sets which would’ve otherwise granted power

Scorching Sentinel? Forgotten, alongside the raid, because Armor Piercing is useless, and charts are more efficient for modifiers.

Visigoth? Juggernaut? Adventurer Jacket? Trimmed Cape? Architect Calliste’s Cape? Fighting armor? Ever hear anyone talk about any of those? of course not, Armor piercing completely abolishes their meta viability.

The moment before intensity finally becomes viable, this guy steps in out of nowhere and starts trashing the place. Take one moment to use that imagination of yours, and picture a world where every armor set that uses Armor Piercing simply had it replaced by power:

  • We now have armor solid sets for Speed-power, Defense-power-Resistance, Several full Power accessories, Power-Defense, Power-Size, Power-Intensity, and so on.
  • Cannon fist now has a decent Fighting Armor, like basic.
  • Acid and Poison now have incredible arcanium
  • The majority of armor sets which are so bad that they usually don’t even register in your brain that they’re there on gear builder, suddenly become cast in new light, and maybe even become meta.

This stat literally only ever amounts to situational power. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants to enter a fight, and have their very damage they deal be entirely determined on what the other player happens to be wearing. Its only other application is that it allows you to pierce through blocks, but blocking has literally never been an oppressive way to avoid damage, because 50% DR while just standing still and taking hits was never a good idea to begin with.*

tl;dr Armor Piercing is bad for the game because it harms build variety and encourages builds that were only made to counter other specific builds.

* There is such a thing as musgravite blocking builds which can practically give you 100% blocking power, but not only is this so rare I have literally never seen it used in gameplay, these simply aren’t viable even without a hard counter. You could just camp them out until they run out of stamina and abuse their lack of other stats, or use magic hazards which have already ignored blocking from the beginning.

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Looking at patterns, a Power-Size set would probably be Lost Treasure Item, since:

Sunkens → Defense + [SubStat]
Lost → Power + [SubStat]

yeah, but vetex doesn’t have a problem making exact copies of sunkens stats, so lost sets aren’t exactly an obstacle

(cough cernyx and dark bronze cough)

I legit forgot those existed…

Dark bronze I can understand but Cernyx’s set?

There will be a time where AP will be reworked. Depending on how well they make it work, there will be a lot of people that will not use it. AP really is just vetex just wanting to see the wiki page be perfect 3 x 3 grid and calling it day

the only times I got something good from blasted chests from an entire hour of doing one singular castrum raid was blasted sorcerer spectacles(25 power at lvl 140) and blasted arcmancer pants/hat(in a different raid)

Intensity becoming useful was truly a sight to behold. Too bad another stat just HAD to take its place.

The worst part in my opinion is how it infested Cannon Fist armor. The bottom-tier Fighting Style got the two laughingstocks of armor stats, and it can’t be saved without changing the stats given because one is too situational to be useful.

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:sob: the cycle

brand new armors drop
they are either from treasure chests or dark sea
they have the most shitty stat spreads that you wont ever use them
repeat

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My 100 Power 211 AP Acid Conjurer that can kill Rear Admiral Amelia in 20 seconds says otherwise.

i’d bet a 200 power acid conjurer could kill her faster

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i like ap because it counters defense (gross stat)
i dont like ap because it doesnt counter defense hard enough
in conclusion
make it busted

your 221 AP conjurer when they get jumped by someone who doesn’t have 1500+ defense

sadly the balance team believes anyone running less than 2k defense is completely unviable in the current meta

I’m not sure where you got this from cuz only one of my builds has over 2k HP.

Muh man, that’s well above average,

you don’t even use discord so you wouldn’t know what the balance team believes or doesn’t believe :fr:

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But… I like armour piercing…