Armor piercing hate thread

Game Discussion
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does it deal more damage than an Acid Conjuror which put that all that EP into 70 extra power instead?

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Well then why are you in the armor piercing hate thread

I was being sarcastic

Yknow when the balance team decided to enter the thread dedicated to ranting about how we hate this specific stat I was not expecting them to completely disregard the main point and jump to “nuh uh!!! It’s totally viable!!!” Even though it remains the least used stat despite how much armor has it

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I often end up in places I shouldn’t.
I’ll go back to my corner now.

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There’s a ratio where investing in AP becomes more efficient than investing in Power specifically for PvE, but generally Power > AP in the majority of PvP situations regardless of amount, unless your opponent is using Boxing or a shield and likes to block often.

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lol is that my build on the right

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No it was my mimic build I made out of spite

I’m flattered it was good enough to fool you

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armour piercer? i barely know her :older_man:

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Then why the FUCK do like 80% of empires armor sets have it

If these were all power I’d bet we’d see a lot more unique builds compared to the 500th sunken warrior insanity 2 defensemaxxing one.

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I have. Let me say, it wasn’t very fun to try to fight meta builds that have high hp with a build that doesn’t use power

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damage sponge build fr

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Defense of all things doesn’t even need a direct foil. Most people don’t even use it because they want to, they use it because they’ll die instantly without it.

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to be honest, AP has more or less of a niche use
it helps with high hp npcs(cough cough level 400 atlanteans), but in PvP its effect is subpar at best(who even runs 3k hp on a regular basis?)

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idk why you keep looking at us as if the balance team is one person with the same opinion for everything. Personally I agree with point 2, 3, and 4 in your original post and I’ve disliked the concept of armor piercing ever since I saw it in the patch notes. Meta just wanted to let y’all know that it isn’t as bad of a stat (in terms of viability) as most people think

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Because the level of consideration being given really makes it feel like no group of people could possibly all agree on this sort of stuff.

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can we have a stat that doesnt rely on someone else’s armor build

like
revamp piercing
to deal % damage of that person’s current hp instead (also change it so it works against npcs)
but then we’d have to heavily nerf its scaling so we dont get 100% of current hp at lvl 260

grammatically speaking it also makes sense, because it pierces your skin, so no matter how you regenerate, it will always do a bit of damage
the problem is that when you have low health, you have less ‘stuff’ to be pierced, so you’ll take ‘less’ damage

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That’s a pretty good simple change, actually…

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see?
also please note, i said % damage of CURRENT hp, not MAX hp

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Maybe we can keep Power 2 and just make it good Power 2.

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yeah!
anyway boost that message, make sure everyone sees it
i wanna know opinion