oh yeah also i think that the player in ao will be stronger than pk because even though pk can get powerful more quickly, ao player has a little bit of godly blood (i think). its like if you have either a stupid amount of low quality stuff (you go very fast but theres a limit) or a small amount of high quality stuff (you go slower but the limit is increased)
so the player is canonically a better savant than calvus 
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If you say so T-T I just think it will do more harm than good to link everything to one source of power that some classes obviously have higher proficiency of
Vitality is pretty much mages before they had circles it’s magic but from the soul from what I understood so it has a high price to it but probably hits like a truck and wardens were referred to as priests so the fact that they related to gods probably means a lot.
Yall just thinking about it too much it’s not that everyone is a savant it’s that some mages have strong mind but fragile ass body not everyone gonna pick a sword because they can .-.
So since Warlocks/Conjurers imbue actual Magic onto their weapons/fighting styles (Berserkers and Warriors use aura), their skills could get as strong as Mages’s?
I’m pretty sure build limitations dont exist in lore right? Using FS doesn’t lock you out if Magic and weapons
Already 15%? 
The system with mages and wardens really reminds me of the power system in Overlord, there is tier magics which are the modern magic and then there is Wild magic which is described to be thr primondinal and ancient form od magic that uses the soul instead of mana/energy and can also use other souls as sacrifice to make stronger spells.
does that mean that fighting style and weapon users with aura can be as strong as a mage? or are they still limited?
He said there are some in the top 25-20 which automatically makes them stronger than most characters and it mean it’s probably rare but not impossible but I imagine none are in the top strongest.
Wouldn’t that be a paladin? I’m confused.
i thought that was about fs and weapon users with 0 magic at all, like relying just on physical strength with no aura
From what it seems that is impossible and also why lol
anything that isn’t in the games or the lore doc isn’t confirmed, including freedrock being stronger than cursebeard
ehhh enough discussion i’m not reading 55 replies with water on my ears
Ok vet but uhmmm do conjurers warlocks or paladins have the same potential as full mages or something like they use magic, of course they can’t use as many lost magics they can but uhmm are they like stronger?
Also are mutations retconned or are they just a Seven Seas thing?
Do you play deepwoken? If you do can I gank you and get catacylsm magic ?
general Zaix, a fucking curse user, said he got his ass beat by another general who used martial arts 
General Zaix was the one who was good at martial arts, he got beaten by General Avery Walker which posesses the slash curse and is a great swordsman
in his notes wasnt there a female general who he said was stronger than him?
both died to avery walker but she also used martial arts and was at least stronger than him.
She wasn’t good at martial arts she just used magic