Community Feedback on Balancing

Happy u addressed this I’ve talked to a bteam member who agreed with me on this but we also both agreed that it wouldn’t happen. I’ve made this suggestion before and got no response. I really hope bteam actually considers doing this.

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atleast we have pilles and meta showing that they saw this, so maybe we will see it or something very similar

you think you know the community; no you do not

you are a small part of the community, your weakness is the color yellow the fact that your opinions/reason for a specific change only happens because your view of the game is so small

as of now, i see little of what balance changes have gone well (eg: removing the movement penalty when carrying items), but i guess youre doing a great job at ignoring the tiny 0.1% of people

the fact that youre willing to make posts like these

not that i know of, but i believe not

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Needs to be more PvE balancing and perspectives from casual players (the majority of the playerbase btw). Something I’ve seen frequently is pve suffering from balancing to pvp. This shouldn’t be the case, unless this has been realized and is no longer being done

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I wouldn’t be surprised if it was forgoten or ignored. The bteam being secretive is adressed multiple times in this post. We’ll see if Meta addresses it directly he can be dodgey or just busy I guess.

Tbh they just have more to gain by not having to be transparent. They get changes they want with out having to explain or reason to everyone else. Another important point is no not all balance members think the same. But its hard for ones with defering opinions speak up as they pretty much discuss everything in private with the rest of the shit heads in balance team. It’s like a weird ass oligarchy but for a roblox game.

For example how long has balance team been around and just now they finally decide, yeah maybe they do need to improve the process the bteam works in. And actually try to get feed back from the community. I think they’re just bread crumbing us and aren’t going to make anything come from this to be honest.

My doubts towards balance team are justified btw. I’ve had many one on one conversations with balance team members that instantly devolved into them ganging up on me and name calling on me. Then I have to conceid from the argument because multiple people are trying to bash me from every direction. I have screen shots of arguing with Fluect FOR HOURS to have em finally admit he was wrong. Pilles also constantly tries to bash me for shooting to get balance lead he constantly reposts it and posted it in hall of shame. Other balance members have done this as well it just shows how much they enjoy belittling someone for having balls to even make a bold suggestion like I did and the fashion I did it. Which idc about but idk if thats the kind of behavior I’d want from a member on my team. If I were balance team lead I’d encourage being bold and having differing opinions/takes and not condoning shitty behavior from balance team when ever people have defering opinions. I don’t have to be balance lead. But I do know what I would want from a leader to make him a good one. I think the qualities for that are to always be there for your people. Communicate effectively. Thats all it takes to be good. But to be a GREAT leader does require a bit more effort and creativity thoe. Great leaders know how to make systems and roles for everyone with in their team. They make the best decisions FOR THE TEAM, and not just themselves. Honestly my thoughts on @metapoly are hes a great balance member. As a leader thoe. I just don’t think he’s reflected much on. Which is ok everyone is at their own pace in learning new things.

The only thing I have to say is Metapoly is the ONLY balance team member I have positive interactions with, even thoe he can be either dodgey or perhaps just busy. He seriously needs to straighten up his staff thoe the constant belittling they do to people in balancecord is intolerable. I’ve also had someone try to actively dox me in balancecord which pretty much made me steer clear of balance cord. Where tf are mods when you actually need them.

Surely this won’t post get me bashed for posting my honest perspective and experiences. :grin: (here comes angry, defensive balance members)

Ngl have the interactions with him are just
“metas gonna show up on this post isn’t he”
“hi”
never responds to the actual thing the post is about

honestly I respect him for it

Why do you respect that?

avoiding all discourse

yeah sure he probably should, but its funny

Lol. I feel thats how a lot of people operate now a days tbh. Avoiding/ passive agressive. Atleast in my experience. I’m also at fault of this. Its kind of hard to communicate thoe when you understand the other parties agenda. And if they’re also actively avoiding you or your main points that your trying communicate in the firstplace.

If you ask a question directly and the person you’re talking to refuses to answer it directly, they probably don’t like the idea of answering it.

Can’t get called a liar if you say nothing.
Can’t have your points torn to shreds if you refuse to state what your points are.

Its a very weak and flimsy defense, to say the least.

True, I get having to ignore people sometimes, but pretending like you want feed back and then turning around like you never asked is the most weasel move ever.

what happened with surge and why is it garbo now

i often hear the criticism that the balance team’s changes negatively affect pve in favour of pvp

geniune question but how?

i don’t understand this criticism

the entirety of thermo fist

granted, it was warranted for pve the first time, but after that it just became completely gutted

The frequent updates, along with the lack of communication with the wiki leads to a lot of outdated information on the site. Having a couple balance team members being dedicated wiki editors could help resolve this.

oh god

i fear the day stocksounds become a bteam member

stock doesn’t even do much editing for the wiki lol only 400 edits total

No more multi air dashes (were used for dark sea exploring)
Cone check also killed some out of combat mobility people used in the dark sea.
Water breathing jewel changes.
Swim speed jewel changes.
Exhaustion (thank god its scrapped)

Those are the ones that immediately come to mind, but I’m sure there’s more.

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I wouldn’t even want to, I ain’t gonna lie.

You should see the others.


Most of the people who chat in the discussion don’t even care too much about the actual wiki.