i mean that was 6 years ago
Yeah, but this was a conversation about Old Torren, and he hasnt been canon since 6 years ago
Source?
Unknowns 3-6 were said to be deities, Morock is just a pathetic little moron with anger issues.
Hell, he’s even called the gods’ dog, meaning he’s a goon as well!
Also notice how it’s stated how Morock’s soul ALONE, yes his SOUL that doesnt even have the curse anymore could destroy the world.
Torren with 100% of his power would struggle to do the same
You’re not winning this one, lil bro, Morock was just a goon with anger issues that was never an Unknown, Torren meanwhile was an absolute beast that could wipe the floor with him. The sole reason you can use Morock’s soul still being powerful is because Morock is dead far before Torren died. And if Morock’s soul could burn the third sea, Torren’s can burn the entire Seven seas and all range 2 islands in their Dark sea.
3-6 were all non-human. Torren is the strongest human ever.
D1 delusion
Calling the dude that has Torren’s power, but just stronger weak is crazywork
LOL! Lil bro, read what I said, lil bro, lil bro. Morock’s soul, that lacked a curse is stated to have had the power sufficient enough to ravage the world. Morock’s curse-less soul is still stronger than Torren with his Curse.
Again like I have told you.
Torren existed BEFORE the Sea Clusters, and he continued to exist well into the Sea Clusters.
Evidence: He’s from Ian’s Cross, but he was sealed in the Third Sea.
Morock got his Curse sometime during the Age of the Seven Seas, which automatically gives Torren 600-700 more years than Morock.
Evidence: Morock is a former member of the OSP, who’s first mention is in Y1500, and even then he clearly tied to Cerulea, so he didn’t originate from the first years of the OSP.
So Torren had MORE time, and Morock was still stronger? Torren is still alive, and he’s stated to be training. HE’S STILL WEAKER THAN MOROCK, EVEN WITH NEARLY A THOUSAND YEARS OF TRAINING LOL! Lil bro, Torren is strong, but you’re comparing him to THE strongest.
Morock is called the hound of god for a reason 
btw your source, the AO wiki also sites my source, which states Morock is the 5th unknown. ruh-oh… Im right and you’re wrong
But I will treat you with respect, even though you are wrong you are still a believer in the supremacy of the TRUE grand fire magics
Buddy, Morock the goon of god was clapped by Valencia and squad.
It meanwhile took the combined forces of several of 11 strongest beings in the universe to contain Torren.
Darkflame floors Promethean fire.
Morock allowed himself to die because his curse made him aggressive to his own family, and he was going to become a threat to everyone.
Torren got locked up for being too much of a dumbass to control his power
Oh so Torren turning mad makes him a dumbass but Morock turning mad means nothing at all even though he objectively had far inferior powers?
Your response and my statement have no correlation. The Darkflame IS inferior to the Promethean Fire Curse, it’s literally THE BULK of Prometheus’ strength.
Morock could CONTROL his anger. Once Torren got angry he just permanently became too stupid to control himself
Moron Creed ain’t shit. Torren didn’t die by taking a tiny dip in the ocean. He would’ve clapped Moron if the other unknowns hadn’t ganked him. Moron ain’t in that 3-6 gap.
Huh so it’s not just me that argues about stupid trivial and opinion-based matters.
Idk considering he couldn’t fly to the nearby island to continue mauling the AG safely I’d say his anger issues made him quite the idiot.
Speak, Stock, Torren Corvus Cross, wielder of Darkflame curse vs Morock Creed, wielder of Promethean flame curse, who wins?
Morock’s undead curseless spirit has more of a presence than Torren…
If Torren’s so strong why the fuck is he sealed? Morock would literally NEVER have been sealed, because he’s just stronger…
Yeah, because he lived at a time when the Earth wasnt 90% water, and said water wasn’t lethal, you dumbass 
Said Unknowns are WEAKER than Morock. If this guy lost to Freedrock and friends, what the fuck was this guy going to do when he fought the final boss, Morock?
You don’t seem to understand. Morock’s fight against the AG wasn’t out of rage, it was out of ideological differences, this is clearly stated several times. The AG at the time Morock struck at them had control over most of the Seven Seas, and was despotic and cruel.
Morock fought them to stop their actions of oppressing the people of the Seven Seas.
As you wish. I think if the two were in a 1v1 battle with no sea water in sight, Morock would win.
However, if they were in almost any tangible area with seawater nearby, I think Torren would find a way to win a fight.
At their power level when Morock died and Torren was still training?