Fleets - is it an issue still, or did it settle after all this time?

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@BiologLOL

If you are ready for the grind - you’ll reach your goals way faster.

@BiologLOL

Before, you could just as well do all yourself, you weren’t required to have a ton of rich friends, you’re weird by saying that.

You’re missing the point. Before fleets existed, as a casual player or a pvp-focused player you would literally need to have rich friends because again, why would you have to spend your spare time in grinding when you want to do other stuff that’s more fun? Looks to me that you don’t actually look into their perspective, I’d like you to try and spend about only 2-3 hours in a new file in a day to simulate what it’s like being a casual or focusing on pvp file without the help from friends giving you stuff as you attempt to get better at pvp.

@BiologLOL

But now, animals exist, and you’ll passively accumulate their meat, just by exploring islands. Meat solves this problem, therefore Fishing task is useless.

You’re forgetting the fact that animals don’t spawn immediately after being killed and how fish can be used to level up your cooking profession. Sure fruits and mushrooms exists which can be bought in shops but compared to doing fishing task, you get more ingredients all while progressing the task which ultimately levels up your fleet which is really important in this game. Again you’re looking at this in the perspective of someone who’s already reached the current end of this game.

@BiologLOL

I see Renown being awarded here as just Vetex thinking “Hm, you sink ships in this task. Sinking ships in game gives you renown, therefore the task should give it too” and not considering the consequences. Renown isn’t even the main point of the task - its resource and food gathering, the followers and the renown are just bonuses.

Renown IS the main point of the task alongside gaining followers and drachma, resource gathering is the bonus. Let’s not mix them up please as you probably didn’t have patreon to have access to that information. Also is it really that much of a coincidence that this was planned alongside renown shops? Let’s give Vetex some bit a credit here since he do have the ability to make plans around important features, he isn’t a dummy.

@BiologLOL

Dark Sealeds are the main reward from the Dark Sea, and they are failing at being it, to the point that a simple fleet task can replace their grind.

It’s not the main reward of the Dark Sea they’re the lootables of an island, you’re being biased just because you were so used to Dark Sea runs being just a loot island and dodge enemies idea. Again, if you actually be objective and look at the design that Vetex actually made and outright said in the past, the main content are the harsh enemies you fight and the main reward being the powerful drops you gain from defeating them. Just because the Dark Sea is lacking in content right now doesn’t mean it makes dark sealed chests being the main reward of the Dark Sea.

@BiologLOL

Them being universal prevents you from repeating the grind to upgrade the fleet again on that new file.

But isn’t the main point of leveling up your fleet is so that you can support your file by gaining resources faster? There’s really no point in making them universal since you can still equally obtain the resources from the file with the max fleet through banks and if anything, when people points this out then they’ll just say Vetex “wasted development time” considering the solution already exists in the game. If you’re a perfectionist despite having multiple files, that isn’t a problem of the game, it’s a problem with the individual themselves.