What do you think we’re trying to do?
Also you’re one of the people who were trying to justify the class disparity.
you yes not the other guy nor whoever i sent that beast of a message for
also if you read it im only justifying it in terms of “first look at the context then make a valid argument instead of just bitching about everything”
idk i dont want to get caught up with this and i dont really care about hecate cuz i dont care about changing my magic
Well, your message is the one that keeps getting brought up over and over against despite how absolutely terrible the argument is.
People use it constantly as “mod said class disparity good! stop trying to get it changed!!!” regardless of your original intention, though that’s how it reads to me too.
Not a single person who’s tried to interact with the utter bullshit that is essence is happy with it, neutral at best. You could argue they feel happiness from relief when its over, but I don’t consider that a positive.
It was deliberately made to be awful, it succeeded, so telling people to just be happy about that is nothing short of a slap in the face.
I will always stand by the fact that magic changing and build changing should have been in the game on release and it never had to or should have become this much of a problem.
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There it is.
If replaying the entire story on repeat over and over again is ‘more efficient’ then the actual method must suck really really badly and completely fail at its one and only purpose.
You didn’t say anything incorrect, it is more efficient to create a new file than grind essence.
Therefore, essence was designed poorly, and we all know it was made that way on purpose.
See:
There’s also the warrior, who looks into their backpack the baker gave them for free, containing infinite loaves of bread.
i did say i didnt care so im not going to argue anymore
I just find it annoying when somebody makes a bunch of points about something that they ‘don’t care about’ and have never interacted with and acts like they know it better than the people who do and have.
If somebody doesn’t care about something, they shouldn’t insert themselves into discussions about it, right?
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This. I hate when people have shit takes and when it blows up in their faces they pull the “i don’t really care” card
I think a pheasable solution for this entire debate is to add a sort of hidden ‘Hectate Pity’, where the odds for a hectate will increase until 100% throughout the islands, causing an average of 12 islands, but an eventual guarentee
or just make it so every ~20-24 islands there’s a guaranteed hectate
This has probably been suggested in this topic already but I’m not reading 87 messages that are individually multiple paragraphs long 
I think the first solution (increasing chances) is better, as it doesn’t feel like a grind for it, and more still fully exploring islands but with the knowledge it can’t possibly be for nothing and you will find it eventually, which isn’t given by the current system
I’ve always taken it as “I have no points to counter you but have too much pride to admit that I’m wrong, goodbye”.
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That’s just inability to take criticism & lack of argumentative skills I think (or they realized they’re wrong and backed out [very likely])
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I have been summoned
A long ass time ago I said that there are three core issues with essence that make it miserable but only in combination.
If one were to be fixed, the grind would be enjoyable.
1: It is too rare.
2: There is no indicator that what you’re looking for is even on the island.
3: The islands you’re searching on make sameria look small and the stepstones look short.
Yeah, and the fact that it’s PURPLE IN THE MOST PURPLE PLACE IN THE GAME. OH AND IT CAN CLIP THROUGH WALLS WHY? SCREW YOU THAT’S WHY
I had another idea
what if there’s a main structure on every far reach island, or a main location or even just a marking where a hectate would spawn, so if you find that you won’t feel bad that you might have missed it throughout the entire island
Just some indicator you’ll eventually find that shows hectate is not on the island
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This is a misconception.
Hecate essence is actually incredibly easy to spot, it isn’t that its purple on purple, it stands out like a sore thumb.
The problem is that it only renders at all when you’re within sneezing distance of it.
This isn’t a problem worth bringing up, though, since apparently its been fixed in full release, yipee.
Can confirm
I saw the only hectate I’ve found super easily, I wasn’t even looking for it and it was off the beaten path but I still saw it
I was looking for atlantean essence is the funny part (idk why I was in I3 for Atl Ess… don’t ask)
This is similar to one of my solutions for problem 2:
Essence will always spawn very specifically on the peak of the island on a structure in the center of the loot circle.
This fixes generation issues and makes it more feasible to find it regardless of island size.
It should have a “pillar” of light. Like have its be under a spotlight so we could décide which islands are worth exploring
That was another solution to #2 that I thought of.
Though I decided it was insufficient because a beacon from the essence would be really hard to spot on certain particularly obnoxious islands… unless it covered the entire island, at which point it would become intrusive for those not hunting essence.
I am glad that we all seem to be in agreement that #2 is the worst of the three problems, given that that’s the one ya’ll are coming up with ideas to fix right off the bat lol.
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