How strong is Nero?

I can imagine cloud magic being a direct advance upon water. All in on size, inflicts soaked, creates hazards that do nothing but visual flair.

I think it is probably something like water+wind or wind+harzard clouds

the creations are not the full curse

it’s simply a different kind of magic energy that conflicts with the curse’s, it’s more so incompatibility than harming

magic blasts actually do harm curse users, the whole point is you need magic (or spirit stuff) to harm them

spirit energy doesn’t conflict with magic energy

I think the idea is that they’re obscenely sensitive to magic energy and passively absorb pretty much all of it, which makes sense given that once you absorb a curse you’re basically an elemental.
Then they submerge themselves in water and suddenly they have way too much energy and nowhere to put it.

Well shadow isn’t actually shadow per se but some sort of “evil energy” according to vetex, and death magic is just concentrated shadow

Because it’s lingering energy from durzas massive attack (with the intent to harm Theos)

By that logic, anybody should have at least a rash when they touch the seawater, probably the only good explanation though.

Vetex just ripped off logia from one piece is the true answer

Again, doesnt matter what the magic is, if the caster create a spell with the intend to harm, it will harm.

the fact that everyone else ignored this theory that honestly has a lot of weight behind it is rough. I feel like there should be a topic dedicated to it

Well I thought about it and it doesn’t particularly make sense considering calvus got indoctrinated at a young age instead of being in it from the start

buddy my theory is he recreated the order in prison. hes a mastermind like that

Explain

you will be punished by HIM
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the HIM agenda are equal to THAT guy
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It just makes sense. Why is vet saying nero will he important in the story when we are far past Ravenna. The lore is constantly changing too. It just makes sense.
My original theory was that Hades was behind the order, and while that still can be true, I think its Nero thats behind it and Hades is just pulling the strings

Nero is way too stupid to be a mastermind. He annihilated Winterveil, built a measly fort in its place (that got walloped by chaos), and was arrested. (Bro couldn’t even die in battle like a normal person). He didn’t even have the sense to simply occupy Winterveil to avoid the wrath of the entire war seas and Chaos itself

The current story is entirely unrelated to Aesir, not everything is directly about them. Sure he probably ties in, but he absolutely didn’t start it.

Especially considering the order of Aesir “died off hundreds of years ago”, implying they existed before that for a somewhat long time. Nero probably isn’t SUPER old considering he’s from Ravenna, which at the very most is ~200 years old

Name a single piece of actual in game evidence that points toward this besides “vetex said this so that probably means this”

Someone called?

I must return from my illness to defend peak magic

I can say the same about water magic, what the hell is that going to do? That’s right, damage, because the intent and magic energy is there

Sand too, ahhh sand in my eyes ouch! No, again, it’s magic with intent to harm
(Peak magic as well)