Hypothetical lost magic builds?

Again, we have no confirmation that the two attacks performed with the Aethereal Ornament were accurate to what Aether truly does, as its a weapon and thus can cast it with different properties.
There is literally no way to know that Aether is actually sluggish attack speed wise, as every attack we’ve seen performed with it was either
A - imbued
B - charged

Imbued? You can’t just imbue Aether Magic, not unless you’re using a spirit build.

Anyway, the entire Calvus fight was based around using his astronomical charging windows against him.

by imbued i meant imbued into another attack, you do know Calvus does that right?
Literally any of his close range attacks save for Pulsar are imbued with his Aether…

Well that’s not Aether Magic, that’s just something being imbued with Aether Magic.

It counts as a use of it, Stock.
Im not going to keep arguing with you, if you dont believe me that Aether isn’t slow, try comparing the blasts Calvus fires to how fast Metal blasts are, and you’ll see that they outspeed it by a large amount.

You know what? I’ll let up with it being slow. Honestly, if the projectile travel speed is anything to compare to the speed of the charging, he really is just charging everything. I’ll still give it a suspected 1x on the speed or lower though.
I’ll continue with the idea that Aether Magic is just really weak when uncharged.

go fight calvus and take a peek at his projectiles speed
aether is slow as fuck especially for a non-solid magic

if bro really has so much free time that he’s just making builds for things that don’t exist make my ice sailor one

I mean, it’s not that hard when I don’t try.

It’s no slower than 1.0x speed going off of a video of the fight. If we’re talking non-solid magic, specifically energy magics. It’s as fast as fire magic assuming it is 1.0x speed. Beyond that, Calvus uses some spells that we don’t have, and thus can’t accurate judge based on that. For all we know, some spells might just naturally have a slower travel time, but we’ll get a better comparison point once we get Array in the next update.

What about the barrage attacks? Their projectile speed seems pretty high. The beams seem pretty fast too? (Idk about the 500! pillar attack because I can’t really notice a difference between how fast placed explosions are.)
The charged blast attacks on the other hand are slow in projectile speed.

I feel like the only slow parts with Calvus are weapon attacks (sometimes), charging spells, his endlag and those single blast attacks. His other attack’s speeds seem more akin to light.

Although, it’s been a while since I fought Calvus so I’ll check again later with attack-speedless light

I don’t think spell charging should count since the spells Calvus charges work differently from the ones we have. Why? Because they’re different spells and we can’t use them (except Array which is coming soon).

Bruthore, beams are literally instant.

I was just generally saying what feels slow in Calvus’ fight in that sentence.

I just liken it to a player charging their attacks, similar to Cernyx.

Although, what I am looking at for a magic’s speed in particular is how fast the projectiles move. The beams and barrage attacks seem similar speed to my light magic.

Not always, there’s a small difference. However, its not really noticeable unless you’re comparing metal and light. I should have instead spoke around range since that seems more affected by speed. Although, now that I think about it, that might be unfair since it is a boss we’re talking about.

In any case, only way to know for sure if Aether is as fast or slower than Light (which it should be the same speed imo). Is by either:

  1. Pinging/Messaging Vetex and hoping for a response (worst option)
  2. Waiting for Aether Magic to release for the player

Fair point (imo, it should be similar speed to light, but definitely not overall slow like some say)

We know it’s slower because we have a character that slings blasts that are slower than light. To make things even easier, he has no attack speed.

Could a patreon member go do that rq?

Wasn’t there the time vetex used it to kill mimhere?