Is there anything you don't like on arcane odyssey ( just asking

[sock]

you would need to fight to steal islands tho

[Derp]

no you can do a 100% stealth route

[Cerulean]

I think it’s really good that infamy is optionally gained by capturing islands. In world of magic, I wanted to make a guild with some friends, but we were all discouraged because of the leaderboard guilds killing everybody for infamy, basically making guilds nearly impossible to use casually. Things like trading guilds would be impractical because they’re just free infamy. With island capturing, you can optionally just not capture the islands and not get infamy, whilst being able to play without getting killed a huge amount. Of course that means that your guild bank will be smaller and you’ll only be able to hold 10 people, but that’s alright since you’re not fighting for that guild upgrade. There’s definitely gonna be some sweaty people who kill clan members regardless of them having a captured island or not just to be toxic, but at least there’s no reward for it anymore. Before people say “If you wanna make a guild then you should be prepared to get killed,” nah? What’s the point of a trading guild then? Yeah there’s definitely some traders who are also good pvpers but who’s to say that they should have to pvp and deal with that shit just so they can have an official organization? I don’t see any reason that casual clans shouldn’t be allowed. I think people are just salty about rking being removed because they just like ruining other people’s fun and rubbing it in. Island capturing still gives infamy, so why not have fun and meaningful battles like that between clans than just getting 3 people to repeatedly murder a guy who didn’t even want a competition?

[sock]

how would you stealth someone’s island away

[Derp]

There is a high chance the person who has the island is doing something else which grants somebody to take it

[sock]

then they’ll go back and try to take it again, causing pvp

[Derp]

Or if you are like me just run away

[sock]

which can happen if it’s gained like in wom anyway

[Derp]

Which it’s not in AO you can effectively use the cowardly strategy and avoid pvp all together

[sock]

you’ll just lose your island then, and the other person will stay to guard it if they’re really focusing on infamy rn

[Ultra]

Scratch that, first most liked. I didn’t even know 21 people used the forums at this point.

[Derp]

just find a new island then lmao

[Rick_Astley_Not_real]

Vetex just made a barbecue party.

[HermTheGrinch]

Alrighty. Usually in most cases people would pipe down after vetex starts talkin. Im a tough cookie though so ima reply one more time. Commentary style.

@Waping

nothing that states it will be the only way, but, either way, its a huge step toward fixing the toxicity problem of the game

That’s my issue. “You didn’t even play the game yet” No mf you haven’t shown enough of the game to give the community a proper idea. We have seen NO mention of a single replacement yet. That’s MY issue with it.

@Divanochi

Developing is his literal job so he kinda has to do it.

Well excuse me for being retarded and forgetting people do this for a living I was busy discussing my doubts about the game actually living to see it’s end.

@Divanochi

Clans having positive reception in the community is definitely more beneficial than having negative stigma around them. A large portion of the game’s players are involved in clans/guilds so if that portion becomes toxic it’ll definitely be seen as a reflection of the game’s community.

You say this like AA never allowed spawnkilling. Yet nobody sees it as a toxic game now right? We could even kill non guildless for infamy.

@Divanochi

Can that not be said about how infamy gain is rn?

Well you can’t get to the top but at least getting to the lb was POSSIBLE. David did it. It’s not impossible to accomplish.

@Divanochi

Alt farming is way easier via RKing for infamy

Bring in 10 alts
Go into 10 10+ player servers
Get 100 infamy every 5-10 minutes

@Beans

sure vetex is a terrible dev for “not listening to the community” and refusing their demands of adding piss magic

Not once did I ever say vetex was a terrible dev and you completely missed the point of what I was trying to say.

What I mean by vetex doesn’t listen to his community is that he only takes advice from his testers. The only other people he takes suggestions from are those who are famous in the community. Genuinely impressive and well thought out ideas (Yes they exist.) Have been thrown out because they weren’t given enough attention or were never brought up.
There are 10 issues and features I can name off the top of my head that haven’t been adresssed yet.

@DocTheWarBird

the game ain’t out yet cuh

This point is redundant and I hate that I keep seeing this argument. My brother in christ we are only going off of what’s been provided. How the fuck am I supposed to know This issue isn’t one when the fix to it is never shown or even hinted at?

@Vetex

What do you mean by this lmao?

It bugs me that whenever people bring up arguments and bring up AR you say that AR is based off the comic and not the actual lore as if they had a choice.

@Vetex

why is this a point?

It’s not. I simply said that you abandoned a game earlier than 5 years.

@Beans

not gonna lie it’s really pathetic that forum users make a thread every 2 days about a non-existent issue in a game they don’t play and everybody in that thread suck eachother off and complain about the dumbest shit ever

Why are you saying this like 5 testers don’t appear the moment vetex says something? Your side isn’t in any way shape or form better than the one you’re acting like you’re above beans.

@Noober

but one of the main point was most likely so that the game doesnt have as much of a toxic minefield as it was in world of magic

Im not even mad that we cant rk for infamy anymore. Im mad that we never got comfirmation for a replacement. Would you not also be mad that the only way to gain infamy is through capturing an island.

@Vetex

because I removed a terrible magic idea from a card about a feature that won’t be added to the game for 2 years, or because I rebalanced WoM weapons purely with community suggestions?

“What I mean by vetex doesn’t listen to his community is that he only takes advice from his testers. The only other people he takes suggestions from are those who are famous in the community. Genuinely impressive and well thought out ideas (Yes they exist.) Have been thrown out because they weren’t given enough attention or were never brought up.
There are 10 issues and features I can name off the top of my head that haven’t been adresssed yet.”

@Vetex

non-point. This was an argument maybe like 6 years ago when I was making a new anime game every 6 months, not now.

It’s not even that bro.
Ragoozer AND Rell put up a model for you.
We don’t care if you don’t update it but you could at least keep the damn game open. And while I can see you’re doing that im worried you might end up closing it down again.
And of course i’d be talking about wom here. (Not mad about the revamp) (More irritated you’re leaving the entire concept behind and destroying it.)

@Vetex

yeah u just dont understand game design then

Then tell me this vetex. If rking for infamy is no longer an option what was its replacement? Was it island capturing?

Im repeating myself so I need to go on from your post.

@Derp

my point was there would be no point of pvp in AO

Now that you mention it… Yeah this could also be a good reason as well. There’s not much to pvp for anymore either is there?

Not even mentioning ceruleans reply either. Most of it is fearmongering bullshit that’s not debatable.

[Rick_Astley_Not_real]

Just sounds like your impatient and have nothing else to do but complain by putting up stupid arguments.

[Divanochi]

@HermTheGrinch

Bring in 10 alts
Go into 10 10+ player servers
Get 100 infamy every 5-10 minutes

How many roblox clients are you able to run

And as I said, good luck defending those islands when another guild attacks them

[HermTheGrinch]

Look bro im just waiting for AO to drop as much as you are let me get some idea for some mechanics

[Ultra]

@HermTheGrinch

Then tell me this vetex. If rking for infamy is no longer an option what was its replacement? Was it island capturing?

Honestly I don’t care what the replacement is; anything would be an improvement. Random killing shouldn’t be how you gain infamy for your guild. There needs to be some intentionality/mutual consent behind the fight. I like the concept of guild wars and massive planned battles, but that’s just my opinion. Island capturing would still work, since anyone capturing islands “consents” to fighting for infamy.

[Rick_Astley_Not_real]

Your ideas suck

[HermTheGrinch]