Would a mass unbanning wave for permbanned people be good for full release? Aside for people with concrete evidence/really bad things, the anticheat and mods are alot better noe, so any real hackers will just get banned again. Ofc only on the game tho, not vetcord or forums
The chest anti-cheat has bean proven multiple times now it has 0 false positives, but even then game mods have a tool that can check if the anti-cheat is right by checking stuff manually, obviously i can’t share what it is but anyways, i’d check myself, but i’m not a gamemod anymore
point 2: screenshot are extremely easily modified and when i was a gamemod i have seen exploiters fabricate even videos to try to get an appeal only for me to notice errors they commited due to videos not matching the file stats at time of the ban etc
point 3: yes, yes they try to appeal, all the time
point 4: the chest anti cheat was never buggy, there were some buggy anti-cheat related to dark sea at some point and other cases, but NEVER chest anti cheat
I forgot to mention the reason they force you to make an alt and not just wipe your data is because they deem barring access to the game from your main account as a punishment by itself, i have no opinion on this, just explaining why they simply don’t just do data wipe and let you back in
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chest anti cheat works in a way that its IMPOSSIBLE for a regular player to trigger it under ANY SITUATION EVEN WHEN LAGGING ALOT, so you have 0 risk of actually getting banned because you’re lagging alot, not to be confused with the ITEM EXPLOIT which can and will ban you if you’re lagging too badly when picking up ingredients on the ground, but pretty much every single item exploit cases get unbanned, now if you say “well why not remove it” then the answer is because big V, it took alot of complaining to even get dark sea anti exploit removed after it was false banning everyone
tldr: chest anti exploit is not one of those cases
No (???), all of this reminds me of the last time someone on forum made a pity post saying they got false banned and everyone believed him until he accidentally posted a screenshot of him with synapse open, you guys are too gullible sometime
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It has been quite a while though, around 2 years now. If he really did exploit, wouldn’t he just be making alts? I just don’t see a reason to keep him banned, even if I understand why.
Attention, wants pity point, being stubborn, i don’t know the reasoning why some exploiters are so desperate to appeal, and i personnaly don’t really care: vetex is really adamant about exploiter being perma ban so even if some of us deems it unfair, it won’t change
i assume the rule change saying they are reserved the right to deny appeal is solely for the reason of denying exploiter who try to appeal after the rule change
they should take inspiration of people like rb1, nmz or yog in that regard, cockroaches that no matter how many time you ban them, a new account of them will reappear, far more efficient than trying to bullshit a mod team that can see every single little detail of your file
I seriously will never understand this. When mods say “we don’t share evidence”, it usually means their is no evidence to be shown. I was false banned from Arcane Reborn in similar circumstances to yahooboy, so I get it.
yeah, contrary to my title here, i am not a game mod, quit because i was tired of not really having any say against rules mod soup make, i disagreed with how they do thing alot of the time but couldn’t really do anything about it: as for the not share rule the reasoning is simply because they either don’t want you to know how you got banned so you can do it better next time or to prevent you from knowing who reported you in cases wheres its an harassment ban and so on, i’m a bit mixed on that rule because i think its more of a case by case thing then “no no one gets to know anything” and even then it wouldn’t hurt to atleast explain what got them banned without having to share anything, but thats extra effort from the perspective of a game mod and they usually don’t care enough so. not that it would really fix anything because people would still get upset they don’t get the see the proof, which then make people question the legitimacy of the ban, but as much as i dislike mod leads i can atleast assure you they won’t let a game mod do a half assed ban or a ban without concrete proof, so you have my words on that atleast, not that it means much
because we cant reveal the mod tools we use + it would reveal who reported you
had a stroke reading this, but from what I’m generally getting is…
- Mods don’t send proof of exploiting to people who ask for it to prevent exploiters from improving at what they do.
- This is the only “reasonable” explanation here, but it still sucks when you’ve done nothing and you still end up permanently false banned. Especially when you’re someone like yahooboy.
- Mods don’t send proof of exploiting to prevent harassment incase exploiter was reported
- You can just blur out the name of the reporter.
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they do say it is easier to fool someone than convince someone they’ve bean fooled, unfortunate.
i explain everything in little details on how the odds of this being a false ban are pretty much 0% but we still believe its a false ban because he said so, so peak
its whatever though, i’m not a mod anymore and even if you band up every single forumer to his cause, they won’t unban him anyways. I felt like clearings things up and explaining what they don’t want to explain and if you still feel the need to support him after all of this, then you do you i suppose.
I see, then thank you for clearing things up about the moderation of AO, me personally I didn’t feel like commenting on this post because I knew nothing about falsebans in AO due to me not having experience as a mod or interacting with them I was afraid I was going to say something stupid lol
yeah it was it falsely banned me once but luckily i was able to get unbanned
i’ll be fr with you, if this is true, odds are you did infact exploit and you only got unbanned cause wom mods felt being nice because they didn’t have the tools at the time to manually check, unlike now
its either that or the chest anti-cheat was refined from wom to AO, which i don’t think it has happened
if this happened today, you wouldn’t have bean unbanned because they would’ve checked your file and know what you did 
or hell, maybe it wasn’t even the chest anti cheat
lmao i did not exploit and i never have exploited on any game, thats for losers
id also like to clarify that the mod that did unban me did say they were having issues with the chest anti cheat and many others were also being false banned
so thats option 2 then, it was refined from wom to AO