Lost spell idea: trapeze

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

@AnUnoriginalUsername

I see no difference between this and your previous posts

well you obviously can’t cuz you’re probably the dumbest, most stubborn idiot I have ever met online.

you make taylor swift fans on Twitter look reasonable

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

@DubiousLittleTyp0

well you obviously can’t cuz you’re probably the dumbest, most stubborn idiot I have ever met online.

I pointed out critical issues, you ignored them while blatantly exposing your complete lack of knowledge about the game, telling me to dodge while in endlag.

To resume quickly I think the two best changes currently to get this spell close to balanced is to make trapeze reflect spells in the opposite angle is their arrival, making them predictable by the user and the oponent, and giving the spell an actual skill requirement and placing their trapeze properly, and having to aim their projectiles properly so they bounce of a maximum of barriers. This will also avoid the easy endlag catching problem. Secondly the spell should have decently high casting time to allow for punishing OR be interuptable.

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

@AnUnoriginalUsername

telling me to dodge while in endlag.

WHERE IS THE FUCKING ENDLAG COMING FROM YOU STUPID STUPID DAMNED CREATURE

WHERE

HOW ARE YOU IN ENDLAG

ARE YOU IN ENDLAG WHEN A NORMAL BLAST IS COMING TOWARDS YOU???

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

My example (that you dind’t read despite me listing it twice) was if I have one or multiple active barriers and the user blasts one of their barriers, you physically CANNOT punish that blast since if you try too, the reflected blast will hit you in endlag.
This example was made before your bandaid fix you made to adress this, (without notifying in the comments) wich makes multiple barriers a requirement for maxmum accuracy, but the issue still lies if your opponent has multiple barriers

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

@AnUnoriginalUsername

was if I have one or multiple active barriers and the user blasts one of their barriers, you physically CANNOT punish that blast since if you try too, the reflected blast will hit you in endlag.

bro just dodge out of the way or block it when it comes I keep saying the same response

why are you tryna counter a blast with another blast this is such a niche and situational problem it almost doesn’t matter

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

@DubiousLittleTyp0

bro just dodge out of the way or block it when it comes

END FUCKING LAG

@DubiousLittleTyp0

why are you tryna counter a blast with another blast this is such a niche and situational problem it almost doesn’t matter

??? fym if my oponent uses a spell, I’ll try punish it, that’s how this game works

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

and this is an issue with any ability nearly (except maybe Shining Cycle)

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

Like I pointed out issues with your spell and gave you easy fixes that keep the spell’s idendity and you’re acting like I killed your grandma

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

a sand blast is travelling towards little timmy.

I have no idea where this endlag yap comes from because timmy can literally do 2 things:

move out of the way when it comes

time the attack and prepare to parry it

and I just realized, you can actually just use your own attacks to clash against the projectile, it’s not like anything changes clashrate wise.

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

fun drawings, however see, in my scenario little timmy’s opp is shooting his barrier, and in that case, little timmy cannot counterattack or the blast will hit him, even if it’s 20%.
And that’s the issue, your spell makes that blast unpunishable wich I proposed a solution too, making barriers make projectiles bounce of them in the opposite angle they arrived, making them predictable and a skill base spell

[darkbitlike]

Anyway this comment section starts to become a battlefield between two people so here’s what I want to say:

1. Avoid insulting the other side in the arguments, this will only cause an unnecessary level of escalation that wouldn’t be productive for both sides. Rather than calling someone else “stupid damn creature”, instead try to ask for clarification or more information so that other person can explains what they’re thinking.
2. If you think the other side is missing some information that you thought is crucial. Rather than telling them to re-read the information, highlight the information that is crucial that you think the other side is missing. So something like this:

@DubiousLittleTyp0

-due to the trapezes being able to auto aim on targets once they finish bouncing an attack off eachother, in order to prevent cheese by placing 1 trapeze to land cheapshots, the accuracy is actually rather random and each new trapeze you make boosts the accuracy of the ricochet, and 3 trapezes maximizes the accuracy to allow for more comboing, if this isn’t actually that big of an issue however, this can be ignored entirely.

3. If you think the other side misunderstood what you’re saying, then there really weren’t many options besides making what you said more clear or explaining why the other side’s understanding is wrong. I’ll be honest, I don’t really know what to do when I am trying to tell the other side about something and they don’t understand what I am talking about.
4. Try to be as calm as possible when arguing with the other side, take your time, and try not to rush your response. You won’t believe how much it helps.

Or you can just ignore what I have said and simply tell me to fuck off, I’m just trying to defuse the situation. I could also be wrong and what I said wouldn’t help or make this even worse but whatever. That’s all I want to say.

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

@AnUnoriginalUsername

however see, in my scenario little timmy’s opp is shooting his barrier, and in that case, little timmy cannot counterattack or the blast will hit him, even if it’s 20%.

yea he can

if his opponent is trying to destroy his barrier he always has the capacity to just do this:

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

also making enemy attacks ricochet seems a little strange to me because I fear that people would actually start using it the wrong way and see it more as a defensive spell than one used as a trick shot catalyst:

making the barriers breakable by enemies makes it feel more punishing if you use trapeze the wrong way

[darkbitlike]

Welp, I guess I’ll be joining the battlefield.

So basically, the opponent is destroying trapeze that’s already here.
However, the trapeze user can counter-attack using blast aimed at their trapeze to redirect to the opponent. The opponent wouldn’t be able to counter-attack back because it’ll put the opponent “in the process of casting the spell” (aka. endlag) and the redirected blast will hit the opponent.

And that while you’re “in the process of casting the spell” (under the endlag) you wouldn’t be able to use block, parry, or even move during the process.

Am I understanding this correctly?

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

I think I’m understanding this now

well In that situation, wouldn’t that just be considered a bad play on the part of the person trying to break the barrier while the caster is using it to bounce off?

if I made it so enemies can also bounce off your barriers in a reverse fashion (as to why I think unoriginal was alluding to, previously I thought he was trying to call them just shields that bounce the attack backwards but now I think he means it can be used by enemies as well to make the stakes higher) then I wouldn’t be against it I suppose…

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

you inversed the roles, I’m saying timmy’s opponent is the one with the barriers and shooting them for the reflection

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

@darkbitlike

Welp, I guess I’ll be joining the battlefield.

So basically, the opponent is destroying trapeze that’s already here.
However, the trapeze user can counter-attack using blast aimed at their trapeze to redirect to the opponent. The opponent wouldn’t be able to counter-attack back because it’ll put the opponent “in the process of casting the spell” (aka. endlag) and the redirected blast will hit the opponent.

And that while you’re “in the process of casting the spell” (under the endlag) you wouldn’t be able to use block, parry, or even move during the process.

Am I understanding this correctly?

@DubiousLittleTyp0

I think I’m understanding this now

well In that situation, wouldn’t that just be considered a bad play on the part of the person trying to break the barrier while the caster is using it to bounce off?

if I made it so enemies can also bounce off your barriers in a reverse fashion (as to why I think unoriginal was alluding to, previously I thought he was trying to call them just shields that bounce the attack backwards but now I think he means it can be used by enemies as well to make the stakes higher) then I wouldn’t be against it I suppose…

Trying to break the barrier or attacking it’s user itself, the user of the spell has the luxury of being unpunishable

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

@darkbitlike

And that while you’re “in the process of casting the spell” (under the endlag) you wouldn’t be able to use block, parry, or even move during the process.

Casting has three stages :
Startup - Before the spell
Casting - The animation
Endlag - After the spell

You are frozen and unable to act during all 3 stages

[DubiousLittleTyp0]

so like

Timmy destroys the barrier but then the sand user also follows up with another blast because they were tryna redirect it?

[AnUnoriginalUsername]

@DubiousLittleTyp0

if I made it so enemies can also bounce off your barriers in a reverse fashion (as to why I think unoriginal was alluding to, previously I thought he was trying to call them just shields that bounce the attack backwards but now I think he means it can be used by enemies as well to make the stakes higher) then I wouldn’t be against it I suppose…

What I was suggesting is to make the barrier user’s attack bounce off the barrier in a certain direction.
If you ever used Sratch, it’s the bouncy feature that it has.