Magic Reset/Hecate Essence Rework

Magic Reset/Hecate Essence Rework
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The Problem

Magic Reset has gotten constant criticism ever since it released, mainly due to how hard and painful it is to get compared to what other classes have to do to change their powers.

Personally, I think the biggest issue is it being entirely luck based. Having something significant like this that requires grinding to get, while also being completely based on chance is not a good idea.
For most people, it can take days to get, meanwhile some people will get it almost immediately.

My suggestion is to make Magic Reset still require lots of grinding, but not make it completely based on luck while also making it take a similar amount of time for everyone to get.

Magic Reset Meter

A new progress meter is visible somewhere in the info menu (maybe in the magic tab?).

You gain progress by doing almost any activity in the game, however you gain an extremely tiny amount (e.g sealed chests give around 0.05% when opened).

Doing regular sea activities isn’t the intended way to get a Magic Reset and is meant to give you a small head start once you want to get a Magic Reset.
Alternatively, progress could only be gained through Dark Sea activities.

Dark Sea activities reward significantly more progress compared to regular activities.
(Compared to the 0.05% of regular sealed chests, dark sealed would give 0.2%)

You can also find Hecate Essences in the Dark Sea, that grant a good amount of progress.
(3-15% based on Dark Sea range)

Hecate Essences

Hecate Essences can now spawn on Dark Sea islands in any range, 1.2 essences with a 10% chance. (1.2 means 1 essence + 20% chance to spawn a second essence)
The size of an essence and the amount of progress an essence gives depends on the range.

Essences are also how you unlock the Magic Reset Meter, as it won’t be displayed in the info menu until you collect your first Hecate Essence.
You’ll gain progress even before this, all the way from level 1.

Magic Reset

Once you want to Magic Reset, you’ll be given the choice of re-choosing all of your magics.
You’ll get the choice to reset your 2nd and 3rd magics even if you aren’t a magic class, but you will only get the choice if you ever have gotten a 2nd or 3rd magic through an awakening.
Because of this, interchange potions will no longer reset your 2nd or 3rd magics.

You can spend 40% of the meter to change magic color variants on every magic you currently have.
If none of your magics have a color variant, a message telling you this will pop-up instead.

Bonus and Notes

All of the values present in this suggestion are placeholders meant to give an overall feel of the balance for this new system. The grind required for a magic reset could be similar, shorter or longer compared to now.

Some of the stuff can be skipped, such as getting progress outside the dark sea, I was kind of unsure about that while writing this.

The main point of this suggestion is to change the process of resetting your magic to be a more enjoyable experience involving actual grinding, rather than having to sneak through an end-game areas on the brink of death hoping to get lucky.

One last thing, about that magic reset dev product…
In a game such as Arcane Odyssey, I’m very much against being able to completely skip grinding for something if you pay real world money.

Either replace it with a gamepass/product that gives a boost to the progress gained towards a magic reset or remove it completely.

But I can understand if some people who don’t have a lot of time want the option to pay to progress faster, which is why I recommend the first option.

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Probably the best suggestion regarding magic resets that I’ve seen. Happy to see that magic colors won’t take an entire bar - needing to find a full HE or fully fill the bar just to make my plasma red is idiotic.

I like the idea of changing magic variants being easier than changing entire magics. However, I don’t think this is a good replacement for Hecate Essence. Changing magic isn’t something you should be able to build up coincidentally, as if it was something mundane like picking up seashells or getting the True Captain title. I also think this would clutter the UI for those that have no interest or use for changing magic.

Pretty good idea, better than 2k robux

truth bomb

Vetex will now crush your skull for making players less miserable

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as much as this would improve it, not happening
we all know forum suggestions are ignored unless someone of importance is like “hey i like this let me forward it to the big man” and i garuntee no one like that will care enough about this

The fact that some people can make better ideas on the forums than Vetex can says something

Overall good idea, but I feel that having an entire bar for this would break immersion.

Not to mention vetex vetoed every attempt to save hecate’s essence done by balance team

Someone remind me to vote on this later, mobile forums won’t let me rate or even see what I’m typing on suggestions

…or not, if I just edit. WHY?!

isn’t that just this suggestion but with a Hecate essence colored coat of paint

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Honestly, I was thinking of something similar to the skill exp meters that shows up when you hover over their icons in the info menu. I’ll probably edit the suggestion to include that later.

reasonable, though i’d make hecates increase chance 10% for each layer and change a lil bit the base chance (so insanity 1 would have 15% and insanity 4 would have a moderate 45%) or someting like that, also… (ADD PITY!!!)

Much better idea than whatever the hell Vetex was thinking

I absolutely hate how long the HE takes to find, especially since it only affects half of the classes in the game, and only half of those is it not a cosmetic effect

Even if the bar isn’t added, I’d definitely like the boosted HE chances

Vetex needs robux to continue the game and magic is superior anyway so a small price in time is fair for being the strongest

I like this idea

Could’ve just asked nicely for donations or patreon subs

Pretty much same opinion