My schizophrenic theory SPOILERS FOR LORE

Warren IS Lord Lancelot.

In the dark sea you can come across some ghost dialogue that mentions Three important figures. These being; Lancelot, Agravain and King Arthur. These individuals were members of the “Round Table” which is a group of knights that originate from Camelot. Camelot was also a city commanded by Cursebeard. Before the fight between Theos and Archeron/Durza. Moving on from this topic. We can only assume that Lancelot is Warren because some dialogue in the dark sea says this. “Last thing I remember from my life… Lord Lancelot… and those raging, searing blue flames… I can almost feel them still…” Judging from this we can piece together that this Lord Lancelot figure was in possession of the Inferno Curse. This also suggests that Lancelot and Agravain had fought from the recently mentioned dialogue. This piece of dialogue also supports this part, “Where’s Lord Lancelot? I have to warn him about Agravain…” From all of this and from Arthurian Legend. It suggests that Agravain had ambushed Lancelot but ultimately lost the battle.

The Grand Table commands the Order of Aesir? (ITS UNKNOWN IF THIS IS EVEN CANON, IGNORE IF ITS NOT)

If you dont know who the Grand Table it is a group mentioned on the Arcane Adventures/Reborn wiki. This particular group was formed by 4 curse users (CURSE USERS ARE NOT NAMED SO WE HAVE TO GUESS WHO THEY ARE) that had survived the blast from Archeron (durza) One of them could quite possibly be Arthur, He had obtained curses before the giant blast. (POSSIBLE MEMBER, NOT 100% SURE) ||Another one could very much be Archeron/Durza. I dont have to elaborate much this dude literally had like 2-3 curses.|| Another possible member could be Warren/Lancelot himself, Its currently unknown when he absorbed the Inferno Curse but what is known is that Prometheus had created the Grand Fire Curses before the giant blast that brought the Dark Sea into the world. The main idea of the Grand Table controlling the Order of Aesir is from this piece of dialogue from Ren “Here it is, hmmm. Wait a second, how is that possible? According to this, the symbol is that of the Order of Aesir, a group I haven’t encountered in many years. No wonder I couldn’t remember the symbol…”, This suggests that the Aesir had collapsed but recently reformed in the War Seas. It is possible that the Order fell before the Cursebeard War since Warren mentions it fell apart 200 years ago.

How is Warren in the War Seas?

It can only be assumed that Warren is only there because of Randal. Assuming Lancelot took up the alias “Ren” after the Cursebeard War he flew to the War Seas. He could have had only known about this place without Randal, Who he mentions that he’s close friends with Randal. They probably went there because most of the Seven Seas was a barren wasteland. 3-4 Seas were completely wiped out. It isn’t known when they got there or if they got there together.

The Orders Formation, Dissolvement, Reformation.
In this piece of dialogue, “They were a group founded on the goal of furthering the power of magic at all costs, even if they go against law or moral. The book says they died out over two centuries ago…” Ren mentions they died out over two centuries ago. This part takes place in 1854 and with this information we can assume they dissolved at year 16?? and reformed at the year 18?? Although it is still unknown when the Order had formed. Moving on from this, The only two notable things that are prominent after the assumed year the order form was when people forgot how and why the world was split into sea clusters. Around this time Online Fighting took place. (y1531) I never got the chance to play online fighting so I have no idea if there was any small clue or hint of the Order existing. One thing to also be mentioned is that Online Fighting took place in the “Old Seas” which is a Sea Cluster that was ravaged by Chaos, This event happened due to Rupin, The Fire Curse User’s Tyranny.

The Order of Aesir originated in the Seven Seas

This certain piece of dialogue from Warren suggests that before the Order had originally disbanded they were a lot more larger. “The Order of Aesir is a very dangerous group, and they seem to be a lot larger and have a lot more influence than I originally believed.” Judging from Warrens old age its possible he could have had forgotten about its strength and influence as time went by. Since Warren could have had originated from the Seven Seas it could only be assumed that the Seven Seas was where the Order of Aesir was founded

What is the Aesir trying to unseal?

In the death dialogue of King Calvus IV he mentions that the Order has been working towards a power that can be unsealed upon the world, He claimed that the Cloud and Death Curse (not sure about this part need to check) was only a small part of reaching the Orders goal. What could only be assumed as to what the Order is trying to unseal is Pandoras Box. What happened when this was unsealed in Greek Mythology was the Evils trapped in the box flew out over the earth. The entity inside of the Pandoras Box could possibly be “Chaos.” Chaos is a sentient malevolent entity that was birthed at the start of the Arcane Universe (big bang). Chaos unlike its counterpart Creation, Is attracted to beings of pure evil. Another thing to note is that it can be manifested through evil thoughts and it cannot be controlled under any circumstances. Chaos is also the force of Magic Energy which is what basically everybody in the Arcane Universe can use. Its said in the lore doc that Chaos is used for, Destruction, Power and War.

Why is the Aesir looking for people like “us?”

The Aesir is probaby looking for people like us to open Pandoras Box to unseal Chaos. In the games official trailer there are 4 lines that are said that are hinting to something. These being: Golden ichor of long past, do your best to make it your last. fire the furnace that burns still, even if you have to inherit its will. The sword of time pierces all, brace yourself for its fall Those who sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind. All of these will probably each have a meaning for each sea that we visit. As of writing this I have 3 theories for each one. Golden ichor of long past, do your best to make it your last. We get our first awakening and learn some things having to do with the Gods. Fire the furnace that burns still, even if you have to inherit its will. We have to carry on the will of the Gods. The sword of time pierces all, Brace yourself for its fall. This refers to the fall of Mount Olympus. I dont know what the Reap the whirlwind one is yet because I have no other knowledge on it. Why the order is looking for people like Us is probably because we are the last of the Gods and the Gods were what sealed Pandoras Box and they need us to open it again.

TIMES EDITED: 4
TIME OF POST: August 24th, 2024

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thats crazy dawg i never wouldve thought the guy using blue flames and the guy mentioned to use blue flames were the same

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insanity flames vro

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Maybe this is Arsen?
Isn’t he supposed to be one of Cursebeards close friends?

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you literally suck and ur not even sigma delete this already ur embarassing our family

So his name isn’t actually ren, it’s warren, but it’s along the theme of cursebeard, so he’s actually
Warren the Lancelot

I like the part where the blue flame, other than that I don’t vibe with it.

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if lancelot’s warren and warren fought agravain then he’s probably dead, arsen doesn’t give any agravain vibe at all and he’s just a commander

What does the dark sea message say about agravian anyway? ik the ones about lancelot

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this is it lol

found it
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Doesnt really imply that they are fighting, maybe he is warning lancelot about something that happened to agravian?
plus either way, the messenger clearly didnt survive long enough to warn lancelot :skull:, so unlikely they fought
(edit, didnt see your post)

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it is suggested idk what was liam cooking

It would be an interesting twist if Warren was Lancelot, though honestly he’d lose a lot of aura considering that would make him 1000+ years old with one of the most powerful curses in existence and still be unable to soundly beat Wotan lol

You already acknowledged that the Grand Table might not even be canon, so I won’t say anything about that

But even if they were still canon the AR wiki says that the Grand Table were 4 curse users who controlled the Arcane Government. So not only would they have no idea about the War Seas nor the Order of Aesir since they’re on the other side of the world, but it wouldn’t be possible for Arthur or Durza to be a part of it considering they’re opposing factions to the AG

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chat the grand table is actually a reference to the gorosei from one piece controlling everything in the shadows or something techlevelgames just told me

please enlighten me on this bc i saw the wiki page and i aint readin all dat

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it’s not from the wiki you bum it’s from the actual real life legend

wikipedia goofy
not the AO wiki

where the guy says he remembers the flames this suggests he was apart of lancelots crew/army or whatever

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nah i meant Arthurian legend idk anything about that

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I like this idea a lot.

I bet he could beat Wotan if he wanted to, he outwardly states he’s not going at it because he doesn’t want to make the war worse.

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He always looked like a tomato to me

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