PSA: Good luck if a mod falsely bans you :)

yes definitely, i agree, but luckily (from what i’ve seen, feel free to disagree) it seems the mods don’t have malicious intentions, they’re seemingly just rushing to complete tickets for their ‘‘mod points’’

their incompetence is definitely an issue but i do not think any of them are acting this way and closing people’s innocent tickets on purpose, the innocent people’s tickets being closed is a byproduct of said quota based system

i think what it boils down to is mods currently have the mindset that every single person who appeals isn’t worthy of said appeal, they go into every single ticket with the mindset that your already guilty of whatever you got banned for, and they just look for the way that closes the ticket the fastest

for example, the guy tap had to deal with assumed he was guilty and that there was ‘‘evidence’’ that proved said guilt, however even after tap begged and poked and prodded he never ONCE checked said evidence until a different mod told him to, if he had given tap the benefit of the doubt once this would have never happened :man_shrugging:

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i feel having 1000+ hours from wom is a good enough reason to double check someone’s ban

i did not fucking beg, poke, or prod like i was asking for mommy milkers

i asked for it just once

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Apparently execution farming is still happening
these guys are going at it for an hour already

ik i said i wasnt gonna reply but i wanna expand on this point
“not fitting in” should not be a criteria to fail mod apps—-a mod team should have a diverse group of people all intending to help out the community.
“not fitting in” is ostracizing while “someone had a better application” provides a good reason to why he was denied (and imo softer than “not fitting in”)
if all mods had to “fit in”, it promotes a single minded homogenous group that are sheep (which is why the deepwoken mod team is so ass b/c 90% of them are the same corrupt mods from rl and 5% are sheep and the other rare 5% are goated mods), differing viewpoints and outliers should be a part of any mod group b/c different opinions are valuable when open-minded
for example, in this post, mod 3 wanted to see the evidence for the ban unlike the other 2 mods, which could have been a factor to the unban

also i agree w/ the idea that mods should be more stringent when reviewing appeals of players w/ high play times, people are most likely not going to pull out synapse after 90+ hours of playing fairly

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why does AO not have an anti cheat??? people can literally teleport to the other side of the map, but not get banned.

god, when bounty resets for the love of god make the bounty actually a thing to be afraid of. the bounty system is just flawed as all hell when the most dogshit people that ever played the game are on the 5 places.

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Bro :skull: :skull: :skull:

mhm i think the middle ground would be treating people who do have more hours with less of the ‘‘your guilty because i’m trying to close this ticket asap’’ kind of mindset,

however i’m honestly not sure where we can draw the line on the amount of hours? someone in our disc also mentioned that their stats have to look normal, eg if it’s someone with a million items picked up and a arcane oddibillion chests open and zero in every other stat you can pretty clearly tell that they’re exploiting,

but compared to tap who had 1000+ hours on a single file, really feel like he shouldn’t have been glossed over the way he was by those mods (i feel frustrated just reading those messages)

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it has some kind of anti cheat evidenced by people getting hit from bs automatic bans but it seems once and exploiter gets banned on one account they immediately figure out a workaround and the anticheat becomes a paper shield v a mike tyson gut punch lol

as far as i know vetex is still mostly solo devving but atp i think hiring someone else to help with security could be beneficial

that’s a good point, but why did they say he wouldn’t fit in specifically? genuinely curious but i still think it sounds like they where just brushing him off

but 100% a variety of people with differering opinions would for sure make a better mod team

they never elaborated lol

nah they did. During an open test hundreds were falsely banned (including me) for chest exploits

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ah damn i’d have been curious enough to ask, does he have any modding experience already tho? could be a case of it being weirdly worded and they could have meant that he wouldn’t fit in on account of not having much experience

and here i was thinking some of those people saying they got banned for ping spiking and grabbing chests might’ve been bsing, yikes

nah but imo modding experience is negligible, most cases rely on common sense which you don’t need modding experience for
either way the app never asked for any experience, id rather a genuine mod whos new to modding than a mod that has modded in 5 diff game
all modding experience does is giving you used to handling the community and the pressure ig but still the response shouldve explained why he wasnt chosen instead of not fitting in

while i understand your point what it comes down to is bigger game’s not wanting to have to go through the trouble of training someone new, they would rather have someone who is a bit more familiar with the current systems in place, as well as with the burnout topic you brought up earlier, newer mods would be much more susceptible to that compared to someone more experienced,

i don’t think it’s a bad thing that most mod teams look for someone experienced simply because the more experienced applicants have a better idea of what they are getting into and signing up for as well in comparison to fresh mods who may feel overwhelmed

id assume newer mods to be less susceptible to mundane mod work compared to someone whos been moderating for years
ig u could say experienced mods have built a tolerance and know how to not go overboard and burn out quickly
idk it can be either case ig

mod teams do like experienced moderators, but iirc dw hired many new mods and rehired mods from rl (who clearly lacked experience)
imo interactions in community > mod experience

The days of RL where all the mods we’re “off work” while chatting in general and not doing their thing

until they started to give benefits to doin actual mod things

and now mods are only mods to farm rewards instead of helping people :skull:

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