Getting pvlitical now are we?
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That’s PvP, not PvE. I am asking for a case where there’s “forced” PvE that is less accepted than “forced” PvP.
There doesn’t need to be somewhere where it actually exists, my reasoning stems from the concept, not the execution.
Do you not agree that if the grand navy buster call was implemented, it would worsen the game for pvp players?
I’m rather certain that’s the entire point: there IS no forced PVE. If there was (admiral adkins coming by when you try to hurt a player), it’s very obvious there won’t be for long.
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Theres forced PvE, its just designed in a way that the player is intended to be on fighting grounds that allows them to defeat it. If elden ring suddenly dropped 5 malenias on you if you killed a neutral enemy, it certainly wouldn’t get as much praise as it does.
that sounds peak LMAO (the elden ring sentiment)
ongbal would have a field day
I do think it would become more difficult to PK, and I think that people would be right to not like the game to be changed in such a way, but that’s not what the original question was, was it?
The “weird” tolerance is because the player chose to play the game that has open PvP in it, therefore it cannot be claimed that it is forced.
As for your hypothetical, it would be tolerated even more because of needing to choose to play the game and choose to PK someone; players would recognize it as something the “victim” chose to participate in.
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ah, this is bait. Carry on then argument over if anyone else feels like it feel free to actually make a point
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You know, I know the old saying about arguing on the internet being like participating in the Special Olympics, but it still feels good to be a winner.
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PVP Toggle? Don’t need that. What’s needed is a disabler for extreme level gaps. That is just… helpful. Like why are level 50s dealing with level 70s+ killing them when that FUNCTIONALLY makes the game unfair??
Thats it :3 my only problem.
Back to fishing hehehe (and waiting for keybind changing because guhh)
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Oh boy a pvp thread. Hope nothing bad happens.
(If this stays open I’ll actually post my thoughts about this, cuz I’m busy right now.)
(Yes I read the topic I’ll be specific.)
Me when I’m a part of the grand navy and someone tries to kill me (I just send out our strongest warship to defend some random level 140 vice captain):
The great lettered war between M and W, the opposing twins.
I see a reoccurring problem where
1, a person complains on forum
2, people agree
3, opposing guy says ‘git gud’
4, people now agree with opposing guy
5, people with same mindset as that of opposing guy now uses this as a chance to say use the same tactic as number 1 guy did
6, number 1 group of people say ‘git gud’
7, the back and forth
The forum cycle
as someone who’s typically on the pro ganking side this is a horrible argument lmao
Does the ouroboros consume itself because it is aware of the symbolism? The forums does not consume itself because they care, no. The forums is a perpetual motion machine, serving no other purpose than to speed up, faster and faster the arguments go, fueled by an ever growing need to be right, winded up by vetex and thrown to the sky to become just another star among the cosmos, dead yet still burning.
sorry guys I felt like philosophyposting again
the funny thing is
i think you’re using it as an example for how pve players feel about pvp players ganking them
but i’ve always had the opinion that there should be more in game deterrents from ganking like guard npcs so this wouldn’t entirely be a horrible idea imo