What? This statement mystifies me. You are suggesting features be removed for simplicitiy. Why don’t we just remove every class except mage and every magic except 2? Why don’t we remove all gear? That would make the game balanced, no?
??? What? Did you just cherry pick that and ignore the rest of my points?
Also, other classes are not causing problems that could be fixed very easily unlike agility? What sort of an analogy is that?
OH THIS GUY GETS TO SAY RETARDED AND I DONT
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Wow thank you Mr.Obvious I wonder what this whole thread is about, it couldn’t be the issue of agility when gankers use it right?
The sacrificed power and defense in question:
Okay but that’s still a problem with agility, that gankers abuse it to get out of fights for free
the stat is broken because ganker’s face no penalties when they use it
If you read my posts and my response you would know I’m completely fine with other solutions
Actually while I would rather it not happen it does solve the issues with gankers.
Yeah man this post made me question if you even read the thread or just skimmed through it
I’ve seen enough I’m not reading allat
Idk if we’re playing the same game but agility has definitely been meta before and is meta right now.
Unless you exclusively PvP in elysium where there’s less of a reason to use it I don’t know how you could even come to this conclusion.
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This thread has shown me how many geniuses the forum has
I mean I was curious if I was the only one who believed it had been
Owning a PvP server is pretty useful
I exclusively PvP in Elysium, and the agility builds there- dear god. Makes the 1v1 that I wanted to fight for fun absolute cancer. It does give me incentive to improve but I want to have fun doing it, not chasing after a fighter jet that hits me with 200+ damage attacks every so often with my cursor.
I used to have fun rabid attacking high agility users, but now not so much.
I also saw others in my clan discord mald about “agility warriors” all the time when they participated in a Raidforce tournament, but they mald about everything, so I suppose that isn’t a good example to back your arguement.
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I deadass just hate agility because I dont run any. I do believe we must remove it
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i guarantee with my entire soul half the mfs chatting about how agility is fine rn havent touched pvp whatsoever 
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heck i didn’t even know this opinion would be so controversial since literally every server i’m in (with other people who do pvp) it’s basically universally agreed upon
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The point is that we don’t need to nerf it badly or remove it, we can just introduce new things to counter it while still keeping its enjoyability and making it fair. In the end, I don’t care if people are mad you invest in a stat they didn’t account for, I’m not going to limit my mobility’s potential because you have trouble in PvP and are targeted by gankers who abuse mechanics (will always be a thing like hello? 
), so I’ve said my statement and have brought my suggestions, its likely none of them will be done nor will the nerfing of agility, I’m done here. 
Are you snorting something, this is like the 31st time im saying I would rather there be a solution that doesn’t harm pvers WHILE ALSO solving the ganking problem with agility. And yet you treat it like I’m begging for agility’s removal without any consideration for pvers at all
If you actually read the thread you’d see many solutions like removing agility’s effect on things like dashing and jumps only in combat. Also it’s not just me struggling with agility builds in world pvp it’s literally everyone who didn’t want to build into agility
Ah yes we should never bother solving problems at all because there’ll just be more awaiting. So I suppose we shouldn’t of solved any balance problem at all, Shotgun pulsar? Absurd attack speed? Unfair pve mechanics? We should never of fixed those because there’ll always be more problems
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Just because you can’t dash as far as before, and not jump as high as before, and move slower than prior doesn’t mean your mobility’s potential is gone, you just lack creativity in how you play the game.
Depending on your build, you have a small, but versatile amount of movement skills that allow you to play very mobile without investing into agility, such as the following:
Leap & Airstep - Vertical Movement
Dodge Reflex - Horizontal Movement
Spiralling Fury - Angled Movement through a target
Crash - Angled Movement towards a target
Uppercut - Vertical Movement which repositions your opponent
Grabs - Projectile-like multidirectional movement (arguably the worst entry on this list - but worth the mention)
Rising Tide - Vertical Movement
Soaring Eagle - Vertical Movement
Flash Strike & Mirrored River - Angled Movement in your cursor’s direction
there’s probably more im missing out but you lot can fill that in yourself
You’re substituting knowing how to move well by being given an excuse to do a lack of it, if you even PvP that is.
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remove world pvp!!!1!!
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It’s kind of like what onion said, this game already has plenty of mobility options as you just listed, more than many other games
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im ngl I despise gankers interrupting my business a lot but that’s a different can of worms
the mere existence of a spammable dash, airdash, and super jump that each travels the length of a ketch at base movement speed already makes mobility absolutely bonkers, even ignoring spells like leap and spiralling fury
i really, really don’t understand how people can say base mobility is lackluster when really it’s the complete opposite