The trouble is that it’s always possible to wrongly convict someone, especially with all the rhetoric the far right spews about gay people being pedophiles and whatnot.
And while you say “beyond any shadow of a doubt” the problem is that either you have to wait for that, meaning there will never be an execution because you can’t prove it that hard or there will be innocent people executed for being wrongfully convicted
Exactly why I don’t think we should ever resort to dehumanizing people even as terrible as that. It’s a matter of time until someone says “The [minority] are (as bad as) pedos, they don’t deserve to be treated as humans” and we devolve back into the holocaust.
Because there’s quite a few in that community that are and I’m not saying all people but there’s a very loud majority, and most of the time it’s just a joke in his community that’s sometimes taken too seriously
that’s fair but his system works based on specific groups that lead to other accounts etc. if you’re in a suspicious roblox group or server you get added to the list, it’s not based on avatar because that just wouldn’t work.
There’s no trusting someone over another if someone deals with predators that’s good, they both have different ways, schlep caught them with authorities which, while noble, isn’t gonna get all of them, meanwhile ruben is using a more intuitive method of creating a list that can be worked upon and can identify those people and keep them out of other communities, because if we tried catching every single person like schlep did then it would take forever and it just wouldn’t work, but schlep is still doing a very good thing.
Oh yeah that’s definitely a problem, but ruben sim doesn’t go out with a stupid outfit to beat up a predator, he creates videos raising awareness about them, if he cared about making them a spectacle he’d do the same formula all the other “pred hunting” channels do and go about, find a guy, beat him up, but never actually contact the police, it’s good he brings attention to it.
He literally made his own list of people in inappropriate servers, which would require programming, time and effort and made his own team, if he only cared about attention he wouldn’t go for that effort, and if he did even then he’s still doing a good thing by creating those lists.
Completely irrelevant and I agree with some points you make but a lot just need to be debunked, I get where you’re coming from but I respectfully disagree
dude that has nothing to do with this, judges are not gonna convict you as a predator for being gay, it doesn’t matter what sexuality or race or gender you are if you’re a pedophile that’s bad.
Don’t get me wrong there’s certainly bias and discrimination in the justice system after all but there’s not neo-nazis who are strictly against all gay people in the justice system, and very little, so the far right has nothing to do with this, it’s not a political issue it’s just bad acting in that manner
I said discrimination not mass surveillance, discord said it was against their “discrimination” policies, maybe read the post instead of making a snarky remark like everyone else because you want to prove a point outside the discussion
As always, YouTubers are primarily in the business of getting attention, be it to inform, educate, or profit.
Now I’m not really sure what the entire death sentence debate in the rest of the thread is for, but Ruben being a sellout isn’t that far-fetched.
The job of the viewer is to not take any YouTuber’s opinions as their own mindlessly without first verifying either their sources or that they have credibility in the matter.
Very loud majority huh. If you say that a group has a majority of groomers (incorrectly) then that’s quite literally the definition of a blanket accusation. Also that whole “It’s just a joke” thing is bs when your audience will treat it like fact and your system targets them.
And what is the criteria for what makes a “suspicious” group? So whatever Ruben Sim’s flawed logic thinks makes someone suspicious means that you get added to some discord list he made to autoban you?
You missed the point of what Schlep accomplished. He actually managed to bring this problem out into the mainstream and managed to tank their stock prices as well.
Also if you do a job then you have to do it right. And you actually do have to trust the people who are actually competent at their jobs over the ones who aren’t. This is the reason EDP445 isn’t in jail. Someone like Ruben Sim who will make flawed systems that don’t target predators do more damage to the cause then someone like Schlep who actually whistleblows the problem to people outside the community.
The online version of this is causing drama and doing stupid shit for people not to trust you other than edgy highschoolers who like that you go after people they think are weird. Why would someone support him when he targets non predators? Rather than Schlep who made infinitely more progress in less time? I mean he’s already got Ruben beat in attention.
Meanwhile Ruben just makes lists that aren’t reliable.
Effort =/= not doing it for clout. If you think people won’t put effort into being a poser for position then you are naive. Politicians are proof of this.
Grifters are a stain on every community they’re in. What Ruben does is something someone else can do better by not targeting and starting shit with other communities and watering down your own message.
No it’s very relevant. By your own words you even believe that the majority of furries are groomers, so you’re literally biased towards him
That definitely didn’t debunk anything
You completely missed the point on this as well. If you change the definition of a pedophile to include queer people (or with any other kind of person like what you and Ruben do with furries) in it then the natural leap is that queer people are considered pedophiles and will be jailed (Which is what they’re trying to do in the state I come from, but you wouldn’t know that since you’re aren’t an American)
Now think about what the death penalty for pedophiles mean with what I said before. Pretty sure you know what I’m getting at. This is why most people are against the death penalty that can be justified with vague rules and definitions.
There is also a documented history of oppression towards queer people as well. If you think the far-right has nothing to do with this then you are as naive as I said.
Anyways I was bored and had to go for total destruction. Please learn more about the world.