Worst comes to worst just leave your clan to avoid clan players attacking you while you do treasure charts on their islands
I was referring to treasure charts being unable to lead to claimed islands (unless it was obtained prior to said island being claimed)
Underleveled players should not be shot at by cannons, not be stopped by walls, and should unfortunatley as a result be unable to contest islands.
they shouldnt attack clanless players. clanless players still shouldnt be able to go over walls tho
All you did was repeat yourself and spout bait to “get a reaction” out of me.
you’ve admitted as much.
I addressed all your points, you pretended I didn’t read them because that supports your argument, and then refused to expand on your points.
Like your whole reaction to me leaving the argument made you come off as a massive loser if I’m being perfectly honest with you.
“RAAAHHHH CLAN VICTORY, WHAT A STUPID IDIOT THINKS HE CAN TALK BAD ABOUT CLANS!!! WE’RE SO FUCKING COOL!!!!!!”
I really don’t see how this is encouraging thoughtful discussion, but you do you I guess.
The only noteworthy point you even made was that they’re not all bad, which I agreed with, but stated that didn’t matter because most ingame experiences with clans are bad because of how the game is structured.
I don’t care if clans have been a positive experience for you, they certainly haven’t been a positive influence for you, and they’ve been nothing but bad for me and many others.
I mean cmon, you, yourself, are a bad clan experience for me.
You really aren’t doing a good job at changing my views if that ever mattered to you.
I feel you on this one, My only PVP experiences following this update have been some nerd sinking every ship of distracted players in Fort Castrum, and someone randomly deciding to go and claim the islands of my 7k infamy PVE clan (I ended up dodging all their attacks to grab my golden apple and unclaiming the island)
Before the update as long as I didn’t dwell in an island spawn PVPers almost never bothered me.
If there’s one MAJOR thing I would change it’d be making Infamy optional like renown is.
Vetex literally stated the update was supposed to be fun “even if you aren’t super into PVP”
Sounds like you couldn’t hold in all this pent up rage after all.
I didn’t intend to get a reaction out of you, I argued what I think, and you gave me that extreme reaction without me needing to ask for anything, which leads me to believe you’re not thinking too rationally here, and you just want to dive into arguing with me so that your self-confidence isn’t crushed.
I don’t want thoughtful discussion with the likes of you.
And likewise, I don’t care if they’re a negative experience for you, and I hope you of all people stay as far away as possible from Clans & PvP.
If your conversation with me was also a negative experience, just remember who out of the two of us sparked our conversation, and the mannerisms used to spark it, maybe that’ll give you a bit of a hint that you brought it on yourself. Which I find rather ironic, as these people you speak for being ganked by toxic people whilst in clans, also brought it on themself for being in clans in the first place.
I’d rather you stick to your views then you fucking weirdo. 
Don’t know where you got the impression that I want to change you of all people, but if you assume I’m so valiant at tolerating assholes like yourself, so be it.
the true alpha wolf 64arc prevails…
AWOOOOOOOOO! 
“clans are good, alot of them are really nice and fun people!”
dear god do you see yourself? go do some self reflection.
I’m pretty sure you brought my reaction upon yourself by acting just as bitchy as you make myself out to be.
Yes I’ll gladly match your level of disrespect if that’s how you want to talk to me, TheoreticalExistence.
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you are such a hypocrite it isn’t even funny.
what happened to you?
also no, it wasn’t at all that I “couldn’t stop my pent up rage!!!” I just came back here to see what actual discussion was happening and stumbled upon you trying to paint me in a bad light behind my back.
for somebody who talks about how angry I am all the time, you clearly absolutely HATE me over a small disagreement and a few harsh words.
I never denied me acting disrespectful to you, and I never said that everyone within the clan community is going to treat you with respect, especially with how you act. Is hypocrisy claims the lowest you can go?
To add onto that, I think you’ve forgotten that it’s almost fundamental for someone, you in this case, to receive the respect they give, and vice versa, no?
Not in the slightest, you’re just a weird sort of pest thing on this thread that keeps coming back to spout more silly comments whenever I mention you.
I completely agree, the golden rule is important.
that is why I approached you the way I did, you were acting snarky and arrogant to breaded.
that became my impression of you, to this point, you have not done anything to break that impression.
Especially when you continued to respond to me the exact same way, and are still continuing to do so.
I don’t know why I’m supposed to act all buddy buddy with you when you’re acting that way.
Glad we finally agreed on somehting.
Because I don’t intend to codeswitch mid conversation, nor am I convinced enough to change my viewpoint, I’ve been sharing what I genuinely think since the beginning. 
Does this mean I’m not resident stupid arguer now
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