Should Clan Building Be Prioritized Before Release?

if you dont like 6v1s… heh… get outta town pal

Holy shit man.
I don’t talk to you often but the ingame experience is far FAR more important than discord experiences will ever be for the majority of players.
That should be obvious to ANYONE.

Who the hell wants to put themselves forward in the pvp community when every “pvper” they meet is a massive shitstain?
I certainly want nothing to do with it, yet I feel forced to because how else am I going to get these resources going. As of this update, resource grinding is tied to PvP, and that is horrible.

I cannot emphasize enough how much that statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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nah man I get jumped and ganked on discord on the daily when Im just fishing

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case in point:

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I’m loving the enthusiasm @Breaded_Butter, can’t wait for what you have to say!

The only solution available being temporary is most definitely a hint to that you’re not supposed to entirely solve the issue of being ganked.

I said this in my original reply, and I hate to reiterate yourself, but if you’re so stuck on not wanting to stay in a clan in the first place, and you dislike that you get ganked for being one, maybe being clanless is for you.

Unfortunately, I can’t speak much on the SG region, I’m British and play on EU, and the only toxicity I’ve seen within the clan community is to do with any clans that predominantly centre themselves around ganking people, such as the following (all are examples from my region);

  • Raidforce (LB Clan)
  • The Order of Emrys (LB Clan)
  • Mendacium
  • Ludia

Or maybe it’s because the people you can interact with on other platforms alongside playing Arcane Odyssey with them tend to be a lot more sociable, and hence tend to be less toxic people, hence why having an involvement with the Clan Community is more of a Discord & an In-Game thing, not one or the other.

Then relay my comment to him.

Hence why I think whoever these people are shouldn’t shape your opinion of clans as a whole, I mentioned 4 clans which I regard as “toxic” EU Clans in an above segment of this reply, if I asked around the majority of known EU players about them, they would most definitely respond with a range of snarky comments insulting those clans, because there’s a difference between, people who are “Gankpilled”, if you may, and those who are “Clanners”.

This is why I told you you didn’t have a great outlook on the entire of the clan community, because your examples are either unknown clans, presumably just smaller friend groups who want to ruin peoples day, or clans which are predominantly disliked by the majority of actual, more established clans & communities out there on Arcane Odyssey. If you so need it, I can send you an invite to Neptune’s Discord Server so you can get a better grasp at the differences between who you’re using an umbrella term to define as toxic and who really are apart of the “toxic minority” inside of Arcane Odyssey.

Does this just not imply that you don’t know enough clans to be able to alter your opinion of the entire clan consensus? Not to pull the same point out of my arse again, but it still is sounding like a lack of interaction on your end.

You’d be thrilled to know that I don’t consider myself apart of the “pvp community”, I’m a PvE player myself, who just happens to own a clan of people who are more involved in it by sheer luck.

You can make ~200k through having 2 people use the maximum number of farms for ~1-2 hours on an island, and I know for a fact that there’s a lot of clans out there with more than 2 members.

You won’t come across even half of the PvP community by leaving yourself as a gank target, because a lot of them, surprisingly enough, aren’t as interested as what I coined as “Gankpilled” asshats are.

If I missed out a part of your reply by accident let me know, I’m on my phone so it’s a bit hard to keep track of what I’ve responded to and what I haven’t.

Anyways, @TheoreticalExistence, loved your attempts at responding to me and I’m really excited to share my views on your reply!
It doesn’t look like you had much to say though unfortunately, so this won’t be as fun. :sob:

A large amount of PvP players, just by what parts of the game they enjoy, chose to lock themselves out of PvE features due to it making the game too time consuming, hence, I’d rather look at features such as the notable Reagent Pots as an alternative for PvP Players to still enjoy certain parts of the game that they could feel are inaccessible to them.

It’s no lie that PvE’ing is rather time consuming, and a faster alternative to getting certain resources being exclusive to the people who don’t have as much time on their hands, because they’re indulged in a different side of the game, makes quite a lot of sense.

Yes, I do agree that it might be unfair on clanless PvE players, but that doesn’t take away the countless mitigations that I mentioned in my original reply to what you could do as a temporary solution to being ganked, or facing toxicity, if you’re truly so desperate for these PvE benefits.

Yet for someone who wants to get a more accurate outlook on that side of the community, they’re forced to utilise Discord to seek out what I’ve referred to as non-toxic clanners.

Discord interactions in the clan community are quite important, every big clan, and the wider majority of aspirational clans you see in-game have a discord server, and it’s probably used just as much as their activity in-game is demonstrated, to get an accurate view on the people in, for say, a larger clan, would you not argue knowing them on discord gives you a better insight to who they actually are when their ego from their Arcane Odyssey stats is stripped from them?

If you’re so adamant to not want to get to know people because you’re so stuck up on every clanner being toxic, so be it, but what you see infront of you will only change if you learn to take in what one side of the community is about.

Nobody is stopping you from doing stuff the old fashioned way if you’re so stuck up on detesting clans.

Maybe you should keep it that way if you’re so enraged by what I say.

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What I see infront of me are the people ingame.
Those interactions are the ones that matter to me.

If the interactions ingame are shit, that is what matters, I do not care if these people have a “nice side” that they show off to their friends on discord.
It is completely irrelevant to my experiences with these people.
I know they can do better, they simply choose not to.

anyways holy shit you are SO arrogant.

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you forget that things such as golden apples are incredibly rare from chests, but can be mass produced at a rate of 5 per hour from clan building

actually is there a chart of how fast the reagent pots grow different things?

I’m interested in lifeblooms, golden apples, saint lilies, and a few others I have forgotten the names of.

I am not enraged by anything you’ve said, I think what you’ve said is stupid and arrogant.
Thinking you’re acting like an arrogant shortsighted dumbass does not mean I am angry with you.

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here you go, not a chart but like you can do the math

that clears that up nicely.

galleon value * 10 in seconds
e.g. golden apples are worth 300 iirc
300*10 is 3000 seconds or 50 minutes
that’s 1 golden apple per 10 minutes with 5 reagent pots (cassia bay max)

I think it should be pointed out that yeah there are kind clans that won’t jump you but its only going to be the clans that do that you actually encounter, you arent going to get jumped by a clan that doesnt jump people, so yeah most of your interactions will be toxic

my clan doesn’t jump people, you should join us
we aren’t a cult yet

not to say that positive interactions are impossible

I have positive interactions with clan people all the time.
I also have very negative interactions with clan people.

I don’t think they’re all shit, but the ones that are, are extremely shit.

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Why do you speak with the smugness of a 16th century aristocrat

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It’s all apart of the act trust.

For all I care, you can keep being so narrow-minded, but I don’t get how that makes me the arrogant one here, when you choose to neglect a large potion of the clan community.

I never said that, for the most part the toxic people are toxic on both platforms, but the non-toxic people you’ll discover predominantly on Discord, that’s the difference I was highlighting.

I can’t speak on this sadly because I only farm auric seaweed. :sob:

I think the same about yours, yet I still provide myself open to listen to what you have to say. :heart:

Were you a bit too frightened to respond to me?