Speculating about some ghost quotes

[razaral]

Vetex has confirmed multiple times that Torren is no longer canon, however, from what he has said

Yet again OTHER informations

[20240223_140521] Torren is confirmed to not be canon anymore as he is just a scrapped idea, but his titles now belongs to someone or something else… [20240223_140549] Meanwhile this is about freedrock

torren might be coming back in spirit