Why is this thread getting so long I get that Vetex made such an omg big unforgivable mistake by being unsure about some far future things but 240 posts is kinda crazy
It’s been on the top list for a while now (yes I lurked again in the last few days)
Then he’d just be some insane dude
He would not be as evil as Durza because he can’t carry it out
Because it didn’t hit the mountain
Any variable change at all would make it different inherently
If I fired a bullet and shot someone vs shot a bullet and grazed someone while having the same aim in alternate universes would be separate decisions even if my intent was the same
but is his character different?
Any variable change to what? Anything in the world?
Yes
Anything significantly related to the event in any way
You are quite literally treating the difference between 80% of the population being genocided and 0 people being harmed as if it’s the same
please just shut the fuck up 
its obvious durza is evil
Absorption curse made him greedy and other curses made him more evil
Is it possible that this thread can be closed off, or something? I’d say that it devolved into something that’s pretty off-topic.
Its normal topic about forumers arguing what should be added to game
that’s the canon event, this is just durza being put on trial in a thread meant to point out vetex’s slip-up
Wrong topic I guess. Anyway I started thing with Durza so blame me
Here’s my take on this baboonism
Durza is evil. Is he just completely unhinged and destroying every in his path with no actual motive? No.
Durza is considered evil because he has absolutely zero regard for anyone besides himself, and he is completely consumed by greed.
It’s not like he just got attacked by theos, no, he was actively planning to loot his town and probably kill many people. Sure, it wasn’t his intention to destroy 80% of the world, but he sure as hell did it with no regret or thought.
Infact shortly after his world destroying oopsie he goes and massacres a entire islands military and robs their leaders Sand Curse just so he can have it, despite leaving their people defenseless after wards.
He also practiced with questionable magics (dark revival), which can’t really be said is directly evil since the peacekeeper used it, but his intention was to get rid of Durza before he fucked the world again.
Speaking of, I don’t know if this is canon or not but Durza was pretty content with summoning a DEAD GOD who would undoubtably destroy and kill uncountable lives, all so he could kill an old ass man who pissed him off.
In short, Durza is evil because he literally fucked everything over with no regret just so he could be stronger, with no real point to it besides living longer and being stronger.
because?
For this purpose, it is. What actually ended up happening doesn’t determine his character. What he knew, and what he decided based on what he knew does
most of the english speaking world would understand character in this context as being exclusively mental
guyssssss leave durzaa alonneee he’s just a misunderstood smol bean babygirlllll 
Because it’s quite literally a different scenario, this isn’t rocket science
This is completely wrong bro, what actually happened determines it and I think this is a fundamental difference we’re not gonna agree on
You just said a peasant dude with severe and debilitating delusions (who has done nothing wrong and is just delusional) has the same character as a mass genocidal murderer
I think you’re the one who’s mental here
Do you think hitler was a good guy because he decided he was doing the right thing???
Then any change to anything makes everything not the same. You said before that it had to be significantly related
I mean, yeah, if they’re the same mentally
No. Hitler knowingly decided to commit genocide. Durza didn’t, or, at least, may not have. I don’t think that makes him a good guy, but that should be taken into account if you’re comparing him to cursebeard
Yes, you see the position of that mountain was significantly related as it literally was the difference between mass genocide and killing nobody. This should come as obvious.
They’re not the same mentally tho, they just think they are which is called being mentally ill while Durza just suffers from delusions of grandeur, this person thinks he’s an entirely different one
You’re on the assumption Durza (one of the seemingly smartest people in all of the arcane universe) didn’t know the extent of his attack
Already explained earlier but literally at the bare minimum he was gonna destroy a city if he was just stupidly underestimating himself then only oberon(the city right next to them) would get destroyed and that would still be slaughtering an entire city (which still qualifies as genocide.
Also since you’re claiming you know what’s inside people’s heads, why couldn’t a neo nazi claim “Hitler didn’t know he was committing mass genocide”
Are you gonna time travel and prove he knew it or look at his actions(speeches, orders, etc)
You somehow have this idea ignorance is an excuse for crime considering you’re trying to apply it to actual genocide
I mean it could include the navy and the assassins or he could just be including the ruins of some kingdom- hold on tf happened here-
Fight to the death.
I love lore discussions, but this kind of stuff is out of bounds for me
DID YOU FORGET THE FUCKING CONCENTRATION CAMP UNDER CALVUS’ CASTLE??? He imprisoned and killed anyone that knew about his great grandfather’s genocide on Winterveil. He also ordered ENTIRE FAMILIES TO BE EXECUTED so he could get a sea curse. The order is straight evil, they will kill and steal from anyone to unlock some ultimate power. Presumably, that power is going to either end the world or be used to rule it. For all of the bosses that we fought in the story, they attacked first and were going to kill us. Why are you trying to take the moral high ground, do I need to mention someone else who used concentration camps?
The player also shows remorse for Revon as they try to apologize or tell the truth. I can understand the argument that the player is bad because of their pirate/bandit genocide, but you’re honestly just trolling us all.
Durza is more of your interpretation on AA and the lore doc, but Theos was obviously defending his city against Durza and his undead army. I see Durza as being evil for his complete lack of care for human life. He was manipulated by Hades, who likely hated humanity for killing his family and wanted to create as much damage as possible.