The entire forums fight each other to the death while i just watch

Im not reading allat. (Of cource I do)

You didn’t really understood my full point of view. Maybe those examples were bad, but I was trying to tell you that you cannot just say that “Durza motherfucker because he is destroyed 80% of the world” and you cannot say that because there were some conditions looking through which you can understand that destroying the 80% of the civilization wasn’t in Durza’s plan, but most people just ignore that fact and say something like: “We do not care, he did that, thats why he is motherfucker”, so I started showing them their point of view, but picked up protagonist as an example, cuz his actions almost always justified by people, but fuck if you follow the logic “We do not care, he did that, thats why he is motherfucker”, then protagonist is also bad? Cuz if you don’t care about conditions (under conditions I mean circumstances, but im lazy), then everything protagonist done can’t be justified, cuz he did that and nothing more about it. But hear me out, I am showing how their point would work, it doesn’t means that I agree with that (of course no).

You were not clear about that, my point still stands that Durza is evil because he has gone on to cause acts of massive destruction and has no empathy. Out of every Arcane character, he has caused the most death and suffering. Ultimately, it is up to your interpretation of the lore on whether he knew the extent of his actions throughout AA.

Also the argument that Durza is a bad person for destroying 80% of the world is completely correct. Regardless of his intentions, Durza IS ENTIRELY RESPONSIBLE for nuking the world over ONE COMBATANT. He was the belligerent, where he was attacking for THE THIRD TIME. Theos was defending his city while Durza was only acting out of his lust for power. He had the option to avoid Theos or take the fight later, but his lack of remorse for human life and hate caused him to attack Theos for the third time at the gates.

If you go back to his origin, he was an outcast and bullied for not learning magic. His family was also killed by humans. On top of that, he is being manipulated by a god who also had his family killed by humans. I don’t know how you’re interpreting Durza as a mis-understood character who just wants to get stronger, he clearly holds a grudge against humanity.

Finally, Durza is responsible for TWO MASS EXTINCTION AND DESTRUCTION EVENTS that caused irreparable damage to the world. He never learned from his encounter with Theos, as he does it again in the Cursebeard war, destroying half the AA seas in his fight with the PK. Durza has left nothing but destruction and death in his wake.

I respect your opinion, but I think Durza is evil.


what happen

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i have no FUCKING IDEA

we want blood

Then explain what “significantly related” even means. It’s literally too vague for me to prove as a bad criterion

Them being mentally the same was part of the premise though, and there’s no indication that durza has delusions of grandeur. If you’re talking about when it says he plans to rule the world, that’s not a delusion, it’s a very realistic possibility

There’s seemingly a lot durza didn’t know, considering that his research was still ongoing 800 years later

I’d look at his actions. I never said not to look at durza’s actions

I never tried to excuse anything, because this is about durza’s evilness, not his blameworthiness. Whether durza knew what was going to happen is directly relevant to how evil he is

Isn’t this just a knockoff of our canon forum events

Also the hell why are people relating a fictional orb of darkness with hitler

No, this was THE original, this started even before the one on the Reminders topic. (Yes, it was ongoing for THAT long)

He is evil, im not excusing everything he done, but only this one blast which destroyed 80% of the civilization. Yes dude is responsible for attacking Theos and deserved to be killed in this fight, but there is next circumstances: 1. He was in rage, so he could not fully think on what he is going to do, 2. Not sure if he is ever knew that such a strong attack is possible to do since nobody before him made it, 3. He missed the blast, I do not know would this blast do the same if he is actually hit Theos instead of Mountain, but I can say for sure that tectonic slates would not crash if he did so, I have nothing to say about pollution and shocwave which could hurt someone.

It may sound very strange, but logically he is responsible for those events, but the conditions that I described above slightly soften the view of him as an evil character. It’s his fault that he brought Theos to battle, but when he created blast using all his power, he… how to say it, he did it unconsciously out of anger, so he also missed, which is an absolute accident, which means that he has no desire to destroy the world, his desire was to rule the world, perhaps the difference will seem small to you, but this is a very important remark.

Speaking of the second massive explosion, here I agree with you, Durza most likely knew what would happen if he blew himself up, even if he did it in anger, he still knew what it would lead to since he had already done this 1 time, only not in the form of an explosion, but in the form of a blast. + He had motivation to do that cuz he lost his chance to rule the world, so he wanted to destroy it this time.

If you think about it, then through a poorly prescribed villain, you can see a thin thread of his becoming an even bigger villain, because we know more about his atrocities after the explosion than before it, which means that his mistake with the first explosion still mentally affected him, that’s just not as we expected.

But in principle I agree with you.

I guess we are close to the end?

“Griffith did nothing wrong” type mfs

If you think so about me, you are probably bad at reading.

It would be a cool easter egg to have a Winterveil flag after you’ve been to Akursius and completed the story

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To be fair, interpreting what you say with exact precision takes some effort, and doing so constantly while trying to prove a point just makes it harder

Is it over?

I am bored and buzy, so im out.

durza bad gg argument over

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